Posted on 09/02/2017 7:44:52 AM PDT by george76
About 70% of Los Angeles high school graduates enroll in two- or four-year colleges, but only 25% graduate within six years.
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it’s hard to assess recent district efforts that could be seen as pushing in different directions. On one hand, the district is touting higher standards: a high school graduation requirement that all students pass the courses necessary for applying to a four-year state college. On the other hand, the district requires a grade of D only in these classes and the colleges require a C or better to apply. The district also offers an array of “credit recovery” options to let students raise failing grades — a plan that has have been criticized for giving such credit too easily.
Although the district has achieved record graduation rates, skeptics have questioned whether all those graduates are fully prepared for higher education.
A companion study suggests one reason that high school graduates are not ready to stick it out in college: They can’t get the expert advice and support they need. More than 75% of high school counselors say they have the knowledge to help students complete college and financial aid applications, but only 42% said they have enough time to provide students with the needed assistance.
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“The “College for Everyone” crowd is pulling a huge scam.”
Loan debt and embitterment are bonuses, you are correct.
What I find the most interesting is that this failure rate in LA is certain to be repeated in every other Lib area. But what about a little further out of town? You know, all those Red counties. I’ll bet the young folks in those areas would perform much better. Point being this leftist “free college for all BS” would end up benefiting the “white supremacist nazis” more than the useful idiots on the left.
Only a few finish.
And then they are really screwed.
The Real World awaits, with bared teeth.
And they need more union members as councillors to help these kids fill out the papers for financial aid.
If all colleges would simply raise the bar and insist that only A and B average students got in....then the yearly entry number would likely drop by probably 40-percent. You’d have colleges then going back to the way that they were prior to the 1960s. Course, you would also be laying off probably one-third of all professors.
Union rules.
“Do you receive any kind of backlash for being so harsh to the poor little things?”
Yes, the students post nasty comments on “Rate My Professor.” But the students who excel also post comments, usually positive.
Surprisingly my fellow teachers, most very liberal, back me up. Our mission is to transfer students to the Cal four year colleges. We don’t lower our standards just to fill classrooms.
> If all colleges would simply raise the bar and insist that only A and B average students got in.... <
The whole scam would then probably self-correct. Not enough students at High School Whatever are getting into colleges. Not enough B or better students.
Parents complain to the School Board. The School Board orders teachers to lower their grading standards. Presto! There are now more B or better students at High School Whatever.
By the way, something like that is happening at a big-city school district near where I live. The School Board has mandated that the lowest test grade be 50%. So put your name on the test, then turn it in. You get 50 points.
“raise the bar and insist that only A and B average students got in”
Pretty much the rule already for most course study. Which is why so many new students end up taking several prep classes and pre-reqs prior to even getting in a program. This is a part of the reason so many quit. It takes them years and thousands of dollars to even qualify.
Critics of federal aid to education warned about such fraudulent outcomes in the late 1950s. They were unheard then and remain unheard today.
“Parents complain to the School Board. The School Board orders teachers to lower their grading standards. Presto! There are now more B or better students at High School Whatever.”
All those private pay high schools are the worst for that. Parents think paying big bucks to a high school results in a better education and A students. The schools feel pressured to give out As, so they, too, dumb down the curriculum to ensure the parents are proud of their straight A crumb crunchers.
It's called Mastery Grading, and we at LAUSD are under tremendous pressure to do it. The logic is that 60% to pass is too high, and besides, a zero pulls kids down so far that the poor, soft little darlings just give up and return to their feather beds with their iPads and chips and weed.
I've personally mastered the fine art of creating assignments where the first 50% is so easy, even the Geico caveman could do it, so that all kids who even make an effort (and I'm pretty good at drawing effort out of them) can get to the 50% mark, and from there I can usually get them to put forth the effort to get to the 70%. But it involves a lot of pulling and tugging and pushing and nagging and encouraging on my part.
I would imagine most are just there to collect federal/state subsidies. They drop out when the subsidies become depleted.
I read that as code for “They are completely unprepared for college academically, and there are no free tutors available 24/7 to take their exams for them”.
I watched affirmative action students in college a few decades ago, and it was so sad; each year there were fewer and fewer as you got closer to graduation. They may have thrived in a community college (and maybe from there moved on to a four-year school successfully), but they are always thrown in a step or two above their weight class - and consequently are doomed for the most part to fail. They end up uneducated, unemployable, and bitter.
That’s exactly right; the school wants the money that comes with the fake students, and the government wants the fake students to put off breeding for a few more years...
“But it involves a lot of pulling and tugging and pushing and nagging and encouraging on my part. “
I’ve experienced the same thing: Instructors practically begging students to turn in anything, even the last day of class, anything at all.
Instructors are graded by how many students pass at what grade, yet, the schools let in anything with a pulse and demand instructors keep them enrolled somehow so the school gets the money.
This leads to grade inflation. What was an F is now a C, and a C is now an A.
“my college chemistry classes busy texting and talking during my lecture. I tell them if you’re not interested in being here, LEAVE. Then usually do leave....after the first exam.”
Yet, how many show up the next semester/quarter having magically passed Chemistry?
California College Chancellor wants to abolish Algebra requirement.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3570989/posts
Colleges need to eliminate Reading, Writing, Science , and Math requirements to increase the Graduation Rate at Colleges.?
In my experience, the English requirement was tossed a long time ago. Now people with Masters Degrees can’t write a coherent email...
I went back to school as a Veteran and old enough to be most students father. Most of these “kids” within my classes and degree program washed out. Those who excelled were older students with families,Veterans and those who were working to get through school. It was pathetic to see the failures were subsidized by Government.
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