Posted on 09/05/2017 8:57:12 PM PDT by Az Joe
The Confederates did not seek to overturn or conquer the government in Washington DC in 1861. They simply wanted to leave it.
That's why in the South the Civil War is called: "The War of Northern Aggression"
The South felt their rights, as states and individuals of those states, were being impinged upon.
The Founding Fathers felt their rights, as colonies and individuals of those colonies, were being impinged upon.
Both felt strongly that they were completely within their rights to leave.
You can check out anytime you want ... but you can never leave.
Gee, do we really have to rehash this?! Yes, they were traitors, took up arms against the USA, killed Americans. And ultimate lost. They are not heros and there is American blood on their hands. No amount of excuses changes these points. Now, most people in the former Confederate states today are loyal Americans, no stain on their hands for their ancestor’s treason. Let’s move on, put all this in perspective, the flag in a museum, at cemeteries, whatever. But, heros, No. Never should we celebrate people who killed Americans. You don’t celebrate Nazi’s do you?
Oh, boy. Did you just go there ?
Rofl. Classic.
You should seriously teach public school history. You’d win national medals. MEDALS, my man!
Don’t give these anarchists in black get-ups any ideas. Once they’ve taken out all of the Southern monuments, they’ll start in on the monuments of the Northern soldiers.
After all, an old White European is, has and always will be the enemy of this mob, regardless of what side he fought on and when.
Robert E. Lee was not a Nazi. Also, as the Constitution said nothing about states seceding, The states had the right to secede under the 9th and 10th amendment. However, since we have the bloody precedent of the 1860s, California cannot secede to practice its collective idiocy.
So? That doesn’t change the fact that contemporaneously they were traitors, that they killed loyal Americans defending the US. No amount of rewriting history will change this treason. And, by the way, note these laws were symbolic, approved AFTER the last traitor died. They did not benefit from this. They died as traitors. Their flag, their hero worshiping statues should equally die, put them in cemeteries and museums. Move on, the Civil War ended over 150 years ago. How about we deal with something more meaningful today, like an invasion of illegal aliens, Islamic terrorists, lying climate “scientists”, etc.
You hve to understand that these C ommunists use salami slicing tactics. They do the slippery slope stuff deliberately.
Reno89519 seriously hates those guys.
No, in the War for Southern Independence, it was the Yankees who were killing Americans.
Yep. People want to troll this Confederate BS, better figure that real conservatives, real Americans, loyal Americans, real veterans, will object. Besides, all this does is drag us down into arguments about whether this Confederacy and its flag represents hate and violence, whether culture can be separated from the association with KKK and Nazis, or neo-Nazis. I’ve yet to see someone explain why it would be okay for southerners to fly the Confederate flag, any more than it would be okay for Germans or people of German descent to fly the Nazi flag. The main group flying both do so out of hate and bigotry. No way to fly either and say you are not defending or promoting that hate and bigotry.
If seceding and wanting your own country makes you a traitor then George Washington, Simon Bolivar, Thomas Jefferson, Mahatma Ghandi, Benjamin Franklin, Solidarity and all the anti-colonialists in Africa and Asia were traitors too.
You are wrong. Confederates killed Union soldiers who invaded the south to kill them. Confederates sincerely believed that they were well within their rights to leave the union and had a right to oppose anyone who tried to force them to stay in the union. Whether they won or lost the war has nothing to do with that fact.
I had a 3rd cousin die in the Battle of the Wilderness and another serve and later become a US Rep from Ohio. Both served in the Union Army
TREASON: The crime of betraying one’s country, especially by attempting to kill the sovereign or overthrow the government.
Confederates do not meet the definition.
You have to call George Washington a traitor, as he was rightly seen to be in England at the time, to be right.
Lets see you do that here. Otherwise pipe down boy.
You don’t seem to understand that the U.S. back then was considered a confederation of states, called the Union, where everyone was loyal to their home state.
So you’re saying that my great-grandfather, a poor farmer in Virginia, with no slaves, was a traitor for taking up arms against a brutal army of bluecoats from far away states that came roaring into his hometown, burning his grandfathers business to the ground and assassinating his cousin with a bullet to the brain because he was a doctor that might treat Confederate soldiers?
“Erring sisters, depart in peace.”
Oh, I’m a good old rebel,
Now that’s just what I am,
And for this yankee nation,
I do not give a damn.
I’m glad I fought a ganner,
I only wish we won.
I ain’t asked any pardon for anything I’ve done.
I hates the yankee nation and everything they do.
I hates the declaration of independence, too.
I hates the glorious union, t’is dripping with our blood.
I hates the striped banner, and fit it all I could
I rode with Robert E. Lee,
For three years, thereabout.
Got wounded in four places,
And I starved at point lookout.
I catched the rheumatism
A campin’ in the snow.
But I killed a chance of Yankees
And I’d like to kill some more.
Three hundred thousand Yankees
Is stiff in Southern dust;
We got three hundred thousand
Before they conquered us;
They died of Southern fever
And Southern steel and shot,
I wish they was three million
Instead of what we got.
I can’t take up my musket
And fight ‘em now no more,
But I ain’t going to love ‘em,
Now that is sarten sure;
And I don’t want no pardon
For what I was and am,
I won’t be reconstructed
And I don’t care a damn.
But but... A statue might hurt some poor snowflake’s FEEEELINGS.
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