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No, Confederates were not traitors. Their monuments must stand. (Vanity)
9/5/17

Posted on 09/05/2017 8:57:12 PM PDT by Az Joe

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To: Reno89519

Wow! You must have gotten one of those Commie Core edumacations to get this so completely wrong or was brainwashed early in life or both.

You sound exactly like the worst leftist I’ve done verbal battle with online. Are you in North Korea? Is this Kim Jung Un? You couldn’t be more leftist in your thinking. You are all the way up against that left wall.

What happened? Did the servers go down over at Dem Underground so you decided to troll FR?

You probably believe in unicorns and global warming too.


41 posted on 09/05/2017 9:57:15 PM PDT by Boomer (The term "RINO" is now being replaced with "Socialist Republicans". Oh; the irony!)
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To: Reno89519

You are Republican and authoritarian. You fail to recognize that your bending the knee to PC attempts directed at banishing history you don’t like condemns your own flag and your own country more thoroughly than it does the former Confederacy.

How many years was chattel slavery practiced in the United States? What sort of historical racial bigotry can be demonstrated at all levels of government in the United States?

Ponder this, realize you’re an idiot who deserves everything coming your way, mend your ways and I’ll accept your apology for being gullible and credulous. After all, virtually all Democrats believe as you do, and they’re not all evil.


42 posted on 09/05/2017 9:57:28 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: DesertRhino

No, I did not. For Kevin discussion people want to be in school to make up lies


43 posted on 09/05/2017 9:57:58 PM PDT by Reno89519 (Drain the Swamp is not party specific. Lyn' Ted is still a liar, Good riddance to him.)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Can’t argue with a thing you said. I’m very glad we remained one nation after all was said and done. But I cannot find fault in the CSA argument that its a basic element of freedom to disassociate yourself from any organization you have joined.


44 posted on 09/05/2017 9:58:07 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hhate dogs. Add that up.)
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To: Reno89519

OK, I am on Siri, it is hard to have a conversation with someone who wants to make up lies and would rather communicate with insults, instead of intelligent meaningful and respectful conversation


45 posted on 09/05/2017 9:58:51 PM PDT by Reno89519 (Drain the Swamp is not party specific. Lyn' Ted is still a liar, Good riddance to him.)
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To: Az Joe

Your understanding of history is sorely lacking

I do not care about monuments to Jeff Davis and his elitist desire to maintain slavery.

The monuments to those who bravely fought ought to placed on battlefields


46 posted on 09/05/2017 9:59:23 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Reno89519
No need for insults, foul language, and rudeness. FR is better than that.

Too funny in a sick way. You equate the Confederacy with Nazis and then have the gall to tell US there's no need for insults!!?

Typical demonRat. Wants it both ways.

47 posted on 09/05/2017 10:00:00 PM PDT by Boomer (The term "RINO" is now being replaced with "Socialist Republicans". Oh; the irony!)
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To: Rufii

Revisionist list causer nonsense doesn’t make it so


48 posted on 09/05/2017 10:01:11 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Reno89519

Delete your FR account.


49 posted on 09/05/2017 10:02:39 PM PDT by kiryandil (Never pick a fight with an angry beehive)
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To: Nifster

What makes you think you get to choose which monuments are acceptable?

I’ll put my knowledge of history up against yours any day.


50 posted on 09/05/2017 10:05:27 PM PDT by Az Joe (Gloria in excelsis Deo)
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You have to remember that Reno thinks that back-shooting LaVoy Finicum was A-OK.

And the Fibbies lying feloniously about it was A-OK, too.

Delete your FR account, Reno89519.

51 posted on 09/05/2017 10:06:23 PM PDT by kiryandil (Never pick a fight with an angry beehive)
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To: katana

“un-reconstructed Confederates”. Don’t see that term used much anymore...


52 posted on 09/05/2017 10:07:42 PM PDT by Reno89519 (Drain the Swamp is not party specific. Lyn' Ted is still a liar, Good riddance to him.)
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To: DesertRhino

Nearly all my ancestors were Confederate, save a few Cherokee hiding out in the Smokies. At least 123 dead among direct and collateral ancestors, and counting. We didn’t even own slaves. The aftermath of that war was a pit of poverty and ignorance that took over a century to climb out of, they were educated and fairly prosperous, antebellum. From Reconstruction right up to at least the turn of the century, they were reduced to marking family graves with rocks. We’ve paid our penance, and proved our patriotism, fighting in every war in which this country has ever engaged. We see where our fighting men and women come from, historically and to this day, they come overwhelmingly from the south. If there’s one thing I hate almost as much as ignorant, self-righteous modern-day Democrats wrecking this country with their hypocrisy, it’s modern-day establishment Republicans playing me-too and rolling right along with them. The idiocy abounds, restricting free speech, freedom of association, freedom of religion, and they have the unmitigated gall to deem themselves conservative. Well, eff that. Tired of it, tired of hearing it, especially here on FR.


53 posted on 09/05/2017 10:21:18 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Reno89519
Yes, they were traitors, took up arms against the USA, killed Americans. And ultimate lost. They are not heros and there is American blood on their hands.

They are U.S. veterans, recognized as such by Congress.

That's all you need to know, you F*^*%&^ M^%&^%^.

54 posted on 09/05/2017 10:32:38 PM PDT by zipper (In their heart of hearts, every Democrat is a communist)
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To: DesertRhino; BroJoeK; rockrr; jmacusa; DoodleDawg
But I cannot find fault in the CSA argument that its a basic element of freedom to disassociate yourself from any organization you have joined.

There are right ways of doing that and wrong ways of doing it.

Declaring yourself to be out, stealing and breaking stuff, and shooting cannons at forts isn't quite the right way.

Say you join the Christmas club at the bank (if they still have those things) and come in to the bank in September with a rocket launcher and grenades and demand your money.

That's not the right way to do it. If you spoke to the manager first, you could probably arrange things without all the commotion.

55 posted on 09/05/2017 10:34:09 PM PDT by x
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To: Reno89519

You need to have your condition checked by a doctor.Its really bad.


56 posted on 09/05/2017 10:39:02 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Az Joe

I remember in college, my history professor saying, “But they seceded.”

“Well,” I said, “we seceded from Great Britain. Why is one right and the other wrong?”


57 posted on 09/05/2017 10:39:09 PM PDT by TBP (0bama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: x

Did we secede correctly from Great Britain, in your very simplistic estimation, or should we have spoken to “the manager?”


58 posted on 09/05/2017 10:42:49 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: zipper
They are U.S. veterans, recognized as such by Congress.

Congress cleverly waited until they were all dead to do that.

For the purposes of pensions (paid to widows) and grave maintenance, yes.

But the government maintains the graves of German and Italian POWs buried in US military cemeteries, and that doesn't make them actual US veterans.

And it's not like Congressmen were innocent babes in the woods in the old days.

Influence and political pressure were at work in past decades for powerful Southern Democrats.

Now it's Black Democrats who are the pressure group.

59 posted on 09/05/2017 10:44:41 PM PDT by x
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To: RegulatorCountry
War was already started in 1775.

We declared independence after we'd been at war for over a year.

Plus, we weren't represented in Parliament.

Southerners (mostly Democrats) had been a powerful force in US politics for over half a century.

One election goes against them and they decide on their own to give up on the United States?

Pretty strange and not something that should have been encouraged.

60 posted on 09/05/2017 10:48:36 PM PDT by x
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