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1 posted on 09/06/2017 5:40:49 AM PDT by C19fan
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Who is supplying them?


2 posted on 09/06/2017 5:42:42 AM PDT by Ray76 (Republicans are a Democrat party front group.)
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As someone who worked with our nuclear detection capabilities, the numbers known are very precise, and they were known at the time of the event.


4 posted on 09/06/2017 5:44:08 AM PDT by CodeToad (Victorious warriors WIN first, then go to war! Go TRUMP!!!)
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140 KT is one the smaller scale of a city destroyer if the delivery vehicle is accurate enough. As a comparison the Trident III carries the W-76 a 100 KT weapon. The question is how did the Norks achieve this. Booster fission devices where one places fusion material in the middle of the fission warhead can produce these types of yield. The fusion that occurs releases more neutrons resulting in more “burning” of the fission fuel boosting the power. Another option is the Layered Cake design developed by the Russians. This design employs alternating layers of fission/fusion materials. Or the Norks tested a small true thermonuclear device; the two stage Teller-Ulam design. That type of weapon can be scaled to whatever yield you want.


7 posted on 09/06/2017 5:48:37 AM PDT by C19fan
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I find it hard to believe that North Korea is doing this all by itself. I know that Clinton sent them some advanced technology and I would think that China is providing a lot of it. If China can arrange for Norkea to eventually knock out the USA with three or four EMPs perhaps China thinks the Boomer response would not hit Chin. China could then do whatever china wants in the world with only the Moslems as real opposition. Russia would become a tributary state.


8 posted on 09/06/2017 5:48:56 AM PDT by arthurus
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US Intelligence: North Korea's Sixth Test Was a 140 Kiloton 'Advanced Nuclear' Device

Still conventional A-bomb, not a Hydrogen bomb as they claim.

9 posted on 09/06/2017 5:49:54 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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My money is on that having been a "boosted fission" device. So-called boosted fission devices are not typically considered "hydrogen bombs" even though they employ isotopes of Hydrogen.

A "hydrogen bomb" has traditionally meant a two-stage weapon - where a fission bomb is used as an X-ray source to compress and cause fusion in the "secondary." Even then, the secondary fusion reaction is really only used as a neutron source for another fission reaction. Most of the explosive yield of a two-stage weapon is from the second fission reaction.

A boosted fission device is basically one that has Hydrogen isotopes - Tritium and Deuterium - present in the pit/core. Under compression and nuclear bombardment as the fission reaction gets under way the isotopes fuse into Helium and free neutrons. These neutrons help "boost" the initial fission chain reaction resulting in a much more energetic fission reaction.

Apparently, if the various Wikipedia articles are to be believed, boosting a fission reaction is relatively simple compared to actually achieving a fission weapon. So there is really no good reason not to boost once you've got a working fission weapon. That takes you from the realm of a couple dozen Kt yield up into the several hundred Kt yield range. Apparently, controlling the amount of Tritium and Deuterium allowed into the pit is how some of our early "dial a yield" weapons worked.

21 posted on 09/06/2017 6:15:02 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Doing my part to help make America great again!)
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Are they making their own tritium?


24 posted on 09/06/2017 6:16:50 AM PDT by DBrow
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140 kt makes a 6.3 erfquake? Color me skeptical.


36 posted on 09/06/2017 6:48:58 AM PDT by null and void (I don't expect to live in a safe world. I expect to live in a free country. Respect the Constitution)
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Lithium 6 or 7?


51 posted on 09/06/2017 8:18:39 AM PDT by Andy from Chapel Hill
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That has to leave a massive radioactive hole in the ground.

I wonder how big it is.


52 posted on 09/06/2017 8:33:48 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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It was probably Iran conducting nuclear test on NK territory.


53 posted on 09/06/2017 8:36:15 AM PDT by odawg
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"Sunday’s test did result in what appeared to be a secondary seismic event–likely an underground cavity collapse–that may have compromised North Korea’s attempts to prevent venting that would allow U.S. and Japanese aircraft to collect radionuclide data, but this remains uncertain. U.S. sources, nevertheless, confirm that the second seismic event produced a cave-in that was externally observable."

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Come on, Google Earth: get with the program and release overflight images made post-test!

67 posted on 09/06/2017 9:47:27 AM PDT by TXnMA (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! REPEAT San Jacinto!!!)
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38 North (That's a link...) has posted several "before vs after" images with post-shot satviews overlaid on pre-shot Google Earth views. (They're presented, using that cool slider effect that allows you to transition back & forth between views...)

38 North purports to see "multiple new landslides" on the lower slopes of Mt. Mantap -- but those were most likely caused by the initial shock.

Bottom line: those lower-slope surface effects don't appear to be any indication of vertical bulk disturbance ("slump-collapse shaft cratering") that would facilitate venting -- directly above the site of the explosion -- deep under the mountain/s peak...

73 posted on 09/06/2017 10:19:24 AM PDT by TXnMA (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! REPEAT San Jacinto!!!)
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Whatever radioactive materials that were used were measured within seconds of the event. Those little pieces of matter shoot through the earth in every direction.

EVERY country with half a brain measured that explosion. Every country with half a brain knew this information the day of the explosion.

The big question is what to do about it.


82 posted on 09/06/2017 11:18:03 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (Burn. It. Down.)
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North Korea has been manufacturing lithium deuteride--the material used as the "fusion fuel" for a thermonuclear bomb--for several years. It was only a matter of time before they actually built a thermonuclear bomb--and the last 2016 nuclear test may have been to test the "trigger" fission bomb needed to initiate the fusion process with lithium deuteride, which in turn causes the "jacket" of uranium-238 on the outside of the bomb to undergo a fast fission process.

If the pictures released by the Korean Central News Agency (KCNA) are not fake, then the Norks built a 150 KT nuclear bomb similar in class to the W80 warhead used by the cruise missiles carried by the B-52 bomber and the nuclear warhead on the Russian Kh-55 cruise missile and its modern derivatives. A 150 KT nuclear bomb can pretty much flatten the center of any city or when detonated at an altitude of 80 to 100 miles off the ground, create a massive EMP.

87 posted on 09/06/2017 11:39:18 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's Economic Cure)
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Here is the Chinese calculation - 108 kilotons + or - 48 kilotons:

http://seis.ustc.edu.cn/2017/0903/c10094a191087/page.htm


93 posted on 09/06/2017 12:36:42 PM PDT by gandalftb (OK State, Go Cowboys!!)
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Thanks for posting...Some previous threads had posters indicating the NORKS were using very aged technology.

Question is where are they getting better technology?

What is being done to protect US...hopefully plenty and keeping under wraps.


100 posted on 09/06/2017 1:11:21 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Freeper formerly known as bushwon ;))
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