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Why the Trump Administration Is Rewriting Campus Sexual Assault Rules:
Townhall.com ^ | September 9, 2017 | John Hawkins

Posted on 09/09/2017 5:07:01 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 09/09/2017 5:07:02 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Betsy DeVos tried to strike the balance on this saying we need to take the victims of sexual misconduct seriously and we need to respect the rights of those accused of sexual misconduct as in their innocence until proven otherwise.

The jackbooted witch hunters of the world may not approve, but I can handle this because its the right thing to do as opposed to the previous politically motivated Soviet-Nazi style policy.


2 posted on 09/09/2017 5:15:07 AM PDT by Nextrush (Freedom is everybody's business, Remember Pastor Niemoller)
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To: Kaslin
During my 5+ plus years as one of DC's Finest, I was involved in five rape cases. In each case, the woman was lying.

A female friend who worked in the Sex Squad of Morals Division told me that about 50% of their complainants were not credible.
3 posted on 09/09/2017 5:21:24 AM PDT by ComputerGuy (BS, MS, PhD, and a BMF besides)
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universities should not be involved in criminal investigations...that’s what police and the court system are for.


4 posted on 09/09/2017 5:33:31 AM PDT by PCPOET7
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To: Kaslin

Hussein obama left us with so much idiotic bs. It will take generations to clear the stench left by dung-head obama.


5 posted on 09/09/2017 5:46:04 AM PDT by boycott
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To: PCPOET7

Exactly.


6 posted on 09/09/2017 5:50:56 AM PDT by Kaslin (Politicians are not born; they are excreted -Civilibus nati sunt; sunt excernitur. (Cicero))
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It's like this:

If a female doesn't want to be assaulted or raped, don't go to a man's bedroom.

If a man doesn't want to be charged falsely with assault or rape, don't take a woman to your bedroom.

7 posted on 09/09/2017 5:56:33 AM PDT by Savage Beast (To the insane, the sane appear insane. MAGA = Renaissance!)
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IMHO the problem with rape cases is the imbalance in the penalty phase.

Yes, it is, IMHO, one of the worse crimes that can be committed and our responses to CONVICTED rapists are totally justified.

But, what about acquitted men? The system has no penalty for false charges that are proven to be false (no she said - he said) hence there is no restraint. If the plaintive had some “skin in the game” it could reduce the number of false charges.

My bottom line is where does a man go to regain his reputation and future when he is found innocent?


8 posted on 09/09/2017 6:06:40 AM PDT by Nip (BOHEICA and TANSTAAFL - both seem very appropriate today.)
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To: Nextrush

Women need to be taught that they can’t claim rape anytime they regret a decision about who they had sex with.


9 posted on 09/09/2017 6:08:00 AM PDT by sipow
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To: PCPOET7

The same thing with the church.


10 posted on 09/09/2017 6:11:33 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Kaslin

Because they believe in ‘innocent until proven guilty’.


11 posted on 09/09/2017 6:22:43 AM PDT by wastedyears (Anime is real.)
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All of these cases need to go to the police. The rights of both victims and the falsely accused are being trampled by the colleges because colleges are first and foremost going to be concerned with their own reputations and are secondly going to be concerned about their pet political agendas.

The only way to ensure the due process of law is to turn it over to the police and let the chips fall where they may.


12 posted on 09/09/2017 6:38:14 AM PDT by BlackAdderess (Pray for our brave men and women in law enforcement)
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“they could hear her loudly consenting to sex”

Hmmmmm......


13 posted on 09/09/2017 6:40:41 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: ComputerGuy

At the start of my military career I was an MP. Was first on the scene to a few rape cases. My observations are the same as yours, about 40%-50% of rape cases appear to be false accusations.
Now all our rape cases were investigated by CID and always had a female assigned to them. I was talking to the CID agent on one of the cases I was first on. She had been in the Corps for 12 years. She told me that from her experience about 50% of rape accusations were false.


14 posted on 09/09/2017 6:41:23 AM PDT by OIFVeteran
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To: Kaslin

With all the repair work that President Trump needs to do, the government is coming across like a very decayed building in an episode of “This Old House”.


15 posted on 09/09/2017 6:44:54 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Hitlers Mein Kampf, translated into Arabic, is "My Jihad")
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To: Savage Beast

YUP!

KYPIP!


16 posted on 09/09/2017 7:01:33 AM PDT by Taxman (Replace the income tax with the FAIRtax and abolish the IRS!)
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universities should not be involved in criminal investigations

I agree 100%. I wouldn't trust ANY college or university to be objective in cases that affect their bottom line or image. Besides that, if a woman is genuinely a victim of sexual assault, the last thing most would want is for it to become a part of college community gossip. Besides that, it will never be forgotten. Every reunion it'll be a part of the nostalgia.

If a girl I was close to asked me for advice, I'd tell her to go directly to the police and not tell anyone who's part of the college community, even her best friend, about it.

17 posted on 09/09/2017 7:09:12 AM PDT by grania (Deplorable and Proud of It!)
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To: Savage Beast

You nailed it!


18 posted on 09/09/2017 7:36:15 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: OIFVeteran

Unfortunately, this sets it up for “cry wolf.”


19 posted on 09/09/2017 7:38:10 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: ComputerGuy

Yeah. The figures in this article appear to be very much on the low side.

Most of the reasonably executed studies I’ve seen show numbers between 25% and 65% (mostly based on definition differences, and location), with a reasonable center a bit over 40%.


20 posted on 09/09/2017 7:58:29 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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