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Democrats Are Increasingly Comfortable With Religious Tests
Reason.com ^ | Sept. 8, 2017 | David Harsanyi

Posted on 09/09/2017 10:18:12 AM PDT by DeweyCA

Attempting to create the impression that faithful Christians whose beliefs are at odds with newly sanctified cultural mores are incapable of doing their job.

"Do you consider yourself an orthodox Catholic?" Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) asked Notre Dame Law School professor Amy Coney Barrett, a nominee for a federal appeals court, yesterday.

Since Durbin inquired in the form of a question, we can only assume that Barrett's answer was pertinent to the confirmation. That is problematic considering the Constitution explicitly states that no religion—not even a belief in orthodox liberalism—should be a prerequisite for holding a federal office.

At least Durbin's query about "orthodox" Catholicism was based on some concocted apprehension about Barrett's ability to overcome faith to fulfill her obligations as a judge. The professor, who apparently takes both the law and her faith seriously enough to have pondered this question in writing, told Durbin, "Any kind of conviction, religious or otherwise, should never surpass the law."

But Barrett's Catholicism would come up a number of times during the hearing, and in far more troubling ways.

"When you read your speeches, the conclusion one draws is that the dogma lives loudly within you," Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) claimed. "And that's of concern when you come to big issues that large numbers of people have fought for for years in this country."

What dogma is Feinstein talking about?

For one thing, Barrett's real sin, as it were, isn't that her faith might get in the way of doing her job but that chances are exceptionally high she will take her oath to defend the Constitution far more seriously than Feinstein does. When the California senator claims to be troubled by Barrett's "dogma," what she was really saying was: "You clerked for Judge Antonin Scalia, which means you'll probably take the Constitution far too literally. Yet, at the same time, you hold heretical personal views on the only two constitutional rights that my fellow liberals are dogmatic about: abortion and same-sex marriage."

You know, the "big issues."

It is irksome, no doubt, that Barrett's faith informs her views. Our backgrounds and beliefs always color our opinions. This is not yet an illegal act. But these lines of questioning, which are becoming increasingly prevalent in political discourse, are an attempt to create the impression that faithful Christians whose beliefs are at odds with newly sanctified cultural mores are incapable of doing their job. They are guilty of another kind of apostasy.

This is why Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) asked Barrett about speaking honorariums she received from the religious liberty nonprofit Alliance Defending Freedom, comparing the group to former deposed Cambodian leader Pol Pot. (The group was recently smeared by the Southern Poverty Law Center as a hate group for pursuing religious freedom cases in court.)

"I question your judgement," the former star of "Stuart Saves His Family" lectured the mother of seven.

This is why Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) deployed a religious test when questioning Russell Vought, then-nominee for deputy director of the Office of Management and Budget, or OMB, earlier this summer. Sanders was upset by an article Vought authored in which he was critical of the oft-repeated platitude that everyone worships the same God. Sanders dispensed with theater and simply accused Vought of a thought crime, specifically being an Islamophobe for arguing that the only path to salvation is through Jesus Christ.

"What about Jews?" Sanders asked Vought. "Do they stand condemned, too?"

Yes, Bernie. Us, too. So what? Does a nominee have to believe everyone goes to heaven to crunch numbers at the OMB? I don't fashion myself an expert on theological doctrine, but I imagine that a rather significant number of Christians would be out of work if this view of salvation were to exclude them from holding governmental positions. Which is, of course, the point.

As we've seen in the Supreme Court, "orthodox" Catholics can just as easily (and hopefully) be originalists—which, whatever you might make of the philosophy, exhibits far more rigid adherence to Constitution than the magisterium when it comes to matters of law. After all, in the law review article that spurred all this supposed trepidation among Senate Democrats, Barrett argued that Catholic judges should recuse themselves from cases in which their faith might prohibit them from carrying out law they disagree with, specifically the death penalty.

If a nominee's beliefs conflict with the Constitution, it's important for those vetting them to find out. But for Feinstein, the very presence of Catholicism is "concerning." So the problem here is that the dogma of Sanders and Feinstein is becoming increasingly hostile toward orthodox faiths, not the other way around.


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To: GCFADG

My answer to Sanders would have been, ‘Only you do Senator!’


21 posted on 09/09/2017 10:50:02 AM PDT by Reily
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To: DeweyCA

But Barrett sounds like a moron. The answer she gave was “ “Any kind of conviction, religious or otherwise, should never surpass the law.” “

She should have said the constitution clearly says “no religious test for any office”, and you are imposing a religious test on me at this moment.


22 posted on 09/09/2017 10:50:30 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up.)
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To: taxcontrol

“the best response would be “Is this the religious test portion of this hearing?””

Perfect


23 posted on 09/09/2017 10:51:10 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up.)
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To: taxcontrol

Only certain religions are subject to this test, you know.

It is an old prosecutorial tactic. Don’t ask a question if you don’t already know the answer.


24 posted on 09/09/2017 10:53:43 AM PDT by alloysteel (Guilty until proven innocent, while denying defense, justice, mercy or any appeal. No pardon, ever.)
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To: DeweyCA
As I previously posted:


I would love, for once, to see a nominee "take the sixth" and refuse to answer the question by invoking their Article VI protection against religious tests.

Each time the Senator pushes the question, the nominee should just declare "I am asserting my Article VI protection against religious tests and refuse to discuss the matter."


When the Senator persists, I would suggest replying with the following:

"How would you use my answer in your deliberations? You can't use it to disqualify me, so isn't it best that we don't even go there so there is no perception of taint in the confirmation process?

Article VI is the same Article that requires the oath that YOU, Senator, swore to 'preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.' Why won't YOU defend my protection against religious tests?"

-PJ

25 posted on 09/09/2017 10:56:06 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

excellent


26 posted on 09/09/2017 11:02:00 AM PDT by BlueDragon (..and that's the thing do you recognize the bells of truth when you hear them ring)
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To: DeweyCA

Aw, they are irreligious tests....


27 posted on 09/09/2017 11:03:34 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: hsalaw; LUV W; Kathy in Alaska

Bet, Democrats won;t Comfortable With this.

President Donald Trump has declared Friday through Sunday of this week to be “Days of Prayer and Remembrance,” and Monday to be “Patriot Day.”


28 posted on 09/09/2017 11:03:53 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: DeweyCA

“Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Catholic Church?”


29 posted on 09/09/2017 11:23:13 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ( "If fascism ever comes to America, it will be called liberalism." --Ronald Reagan)
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To: DeweyCA

Democrats today would crucify Jesus and free Barabas


30 posted on 09/09/2017 11:27:45 AM PDT by realcleanguy
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To: DeweyCA

This is news? Ha! Liberals constantly attack Christians
Most of them believe religious people should be banned from voting.


31 posted on 09/09/2017 11:43:48 AM PDT by Seruzawa (TANSTAAFL!)
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To: DeweyCA; All
"When you read your speeches, the conclusion one draws is that the dogma lives loudly within you," Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) claimed. "And that's of concern when you come to big issues that large numbers of people have fought for for years in this country."

Consider that one reason that uniparty Democratic lawmakers are getting away with asking judicial nominees religion-related questions is because anti-Christian uniparty RINOs are not expressing indignation to unconstitutional questions.

Also, by asking judicial nominees unconstitutional religious questions, uniparty lawmakers probably projecting into nominees the idea that the feds have stolen state power to deal with religion, the feds using those stolen powers to harass Christians.

32 posted on 09/09/2017 11:45:04 AM PDT by Amendment10
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To: DeweyCA

Would any of these yobs have treated a mussie like that?

Rhetorical question only. We know the answer


33 posted on 09/09/2017 11:47:48 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: DeweyCA
Of the Constitution as the Supreme Law of the Land until amended in accordance with Article V, Alexander Hamilton asserted:

“Until the people have, by some solemn and authoritative act, annulled or changed the established form, it is binding upon them collectively, as well as individually; and no presumption or even knowledge of their sentiments, can warrant their representatives [the executive, judiciary, or legislature]; in a departure from it prior to such an act.” – Alexander Hamilton

If one of the Founders, himself chosen to interpret the Constitution to "the People," through his writings in THE FEDERALIST's 85 Essays, makes such a strong assertion about the nation's Constitution's supremacy, then isn't it reasonable that elected or appointed officials in the government it structures are not allowed to "innovate" upon appropriately-enacted laws flowing from its provisions?

Have the "Progressive Regressives" found some new amendment?

34 posted on 09/09/2017 12:32:34 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: vladimir998
I apologize. I was just being silly, but that was an ill-advised joke.

Maybe if I'd capitalized Orthodox at the end there, it would have still been funny, but not offensive.

Better still if I'd just keep it zipped. (see tagline.)

Again, I apologize.

35 posted on 09/09/2017 12:34:26 PM PDT by GCFADG (Set a watch, O LORD, before my mouth; keep the door of my lips.)
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To: Seruzawa

No, this is not a new phenomenon. That is why I said that it is simply a SUMMARY of RECENT events. I thought that someone might find it helpful, especially perhaps to forward to a friend who is not yet aware of Democrat opposition to Christianity.


36 posted on 09/09/2017 12:58:34 PM PDT by DeweyCA
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To: DeweyCA

One cannot serve two masters. Serve God or Satan. Democrats certainly do no espouse the teaching of the Bible.


37 posted on 09/09/2017 1:22:52 PM PDT by okie 54
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To: GCFADG

Sorry but you logic is wrong. Christians are Christians. Catholics profess to be Christian but long have deviated from the Bible


38 posted on 09/09/2017 1:26:08 PM PDT by okie 54
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To: DeweyCA

Moslems pass the new Religious Test. Christians Fail.


39 posted on 09/09/2017 2:29:57 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: DeweyCA

That’s fine! It just shows who democrats are. It kind of looks like they’ve lost their faith in God.


40 posted on 09/09/2017 5:04:22 PM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent (.)
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