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The basic problem with Sanders' plan is that he wants to add almost 300 million beneficiaries to a program that the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) says is "unsustainable." Obamacare reforms of Medicare haven't worked and costs continue to spiral out of control. According to the Heritage Foundation, Medicare has an unfunded liability of $85.6 trillion. And the Democrats want to pile on 300 million beneficiaries on top of that?
1 posted on 09/12/2017 7:26:00 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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He means ALL the people of the world.


2 posted on 09/12/2017 7:29:37 AM PDT by Savage Beast (To the insane, the sane appear insane. MAGA = Renaissance!)
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Nothing democrats come up with is sustainable or workable. They are scrambling to come up with political ideas, of which they have none, regardless of the consequences.
They get more desperate by the moment.


3 posted on 09/12/2017 7:29:43 AM PDT by Sasparilla ( I'm Not Tired of Winning.)
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There is ALREADY Medicare for all. All that is required is that you work, pay in all your working life, and then retire as early as 62-years old. What’s wrong with that? Leave it alone, Bernie and ‘rats.


4 posted on 09/12/2017 7:30:04 AM PDT by oldplayer
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The law will require enrollment of everyone. Then the taxes and cost sharing will kick in. Before long you’ll be paying $2,000 a month for rationed healthcare never meant to be delivered. All the while growing the size and scope of government.


6 posted on 09/12/2017 7:31:57 AM PDT by blackdog
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If MEDICARE is for all, so is paying decades of MEDICARE tax to earn it

And so are the aches pains and infirmities of old age

Welcome to MEDICARE


8 posted on 09/12/2017 7:37:42 AM PDT by silverleaf (We voted for change, not leftover change)
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This is the direct result of Republicans refusal to govern. They should've abolished Obamacare within the first week of Trump's presidency. Instead, they strive to protect the disgusting profiteering of pharmaceutical, insurance, care-giver and hospital entities who profit.

Maybe US citizens across the political spectrum are realizing that DC swampthings have progressed from useless to disgustingly anti-US citizens. Maybe the only way to end the profiteering by political donors is universal health care.

9 posted on 09/12/2017 7:39:38 AM PDT by grania (Deplorable and Proud of It!)
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Step 2 in providing national healthcare run by the government for all peasants - Except of Course for the Two Houses of Lords and their families and retainers who receive special medical coverage.


11 posted on 09/12/2017 7:44:59 AM PDT by ZULU (DITCH MITCH!!! DUMP RYAN!! DROP DEAD MCCAIN!! KIM FATTY the THIRD = Kim Jung Un)
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Problem. Uninsured people don’t want to pay ANYTHING for health insurance. They want to use that money for other things. Health insurance is not a high priority for them.

So if they get it, it better be free.


12 posted on 09/12/2017 7:47:47 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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Is Bernie Sanders on Medicare and if not why not?

Socialism for thee but not for “me”. - BS


13 posted on 09/12/2017 7:48:50 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Did Barack Obama denounce Communism and dictatorships when he visited Cuba as a puppet of the State?)
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Democrats: taking from those who have, and giving it to those who vote so that the money keeps flowing to them.


14 posted on 09/12/2017 7:50:11 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Freedom of speech: a fond memory of something that went away 30 years ago.)
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I am assuming in this single payer scenario that the money people pay to private insurance would be funneled to medicare. My work sponsored family plan is over $500.00/month. I would assume medicare payroll taxes would go up that much. I hope not more than that.


16 posted on 09/12/2017 7:53:26 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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Its strength is that it’s easy to understand. Everyone gets a car. Easy to understand. Everyone gets medicare. Easy to understand.


17 posted on 09/12/2017 7:54:52 AM PDT by xzins ( Support the Freepathon! Every donation is impaortant.)
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The Dem Party has been hijacked by Leftist radicals. They are now incapable of moving to the center enough to be competitive in 80% of the country.


18 posted on 09/12/2017 7:55:14 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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Sanders “Medicare for all” would most definitely include rationing and price-controls on literally everything.

It would simply be total nationalization. No doubt about it.

America gets away with its present ridiculous, inefficient, crony-capitalist hairball medical delivery system because Fed.gov can print massive debt, in its own unbacked, fiat currency - and the world has to take it.


20 posted on 09/12/2017 8:01:50 AM PDT by PGR88
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Sanders is a straight out Commie and a major consumer of moonbeams. Anyone equipped with a functioning brain, giving him even a cursory glance, would see that he is full of baloney, selling a completely impractical plan which would bankrupt the nation. And why should "everyone"---including those who sit on their rear ends all day smoking dope, watching TV, and collecting more undeserved social services---get medical care? Only someone dogmatically wrapped up tighter than an Egyptian mummy in their agenda would come out with such a fundamentally ridiculous plan.

Let it be known that another real brainiac sitting in the Senate---NY's own Kirstin Gillibrand, imbecile extraordinaire, has plans on co-sponsoring Sanders's bill, according to the New York Daily News. It is expected to go to the floor on Wednesday.

22 posted on 09/12/2017 8:06:04 AM PDT by EinNYC
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The problem isn’t Medicare for all, the problem is Medicare.


23 posted on 09/12/2017 8:12:56 AM PDT by Poison Pill
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Medicare pays doctors 50% on the dollar. The medical system would collapse under 100% Medicare.


29 posted on 09/12/2017 8:43:12 AM PDT by aimhigh (1 John 3:23)
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Oh hell, just get on with it. Or maybe NK can nuke us and destroy some democrat strongholds....


31 posted on 09/12/2017 8:51:08 AM PDT by Jumper
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This is worse than UBI, which would replace welfare.

Single payer would add another open-ended entitlement at a time when we’re unable to fully fund existing social welfare programs.

Where would we find the money to fund an American version of Canada’s Medicare?

And if you love the mess made with Obamacare, wait til to see what’s on offer with Medicare.

In short, this is going to bankrupt the country and if it doesn’t - it can cover everything only by denying most Americans everything but health care politicians decide they can have.

This is beyond stupid.


33 posted on 09/12/2017 9:05:53 AM PDT by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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Yup the tax burden alone will crush the economy not to mention all the red tape.

In contrast, a universal basic program gives every one a basic sum of money as income to save, spend or invest and it flows right back into the economy without new taxes or mountains of red tape.

Democrats are looking back to the past not to the future. If given a choice between bureaucrats running our health care or people being allowed to decide to what to do with new guaranteed income, the choice is clear.

To all except the Democrats. I love the direction in which they’re heading. I want them to tell the American people just how much “free” health care actually costs.

I don’t have sympathy for a GOP in hock to corporate donors which can’t bring itself to repeal Obamacare and replace welfare but we really need to stop digging by creating a new entitlement program that will be impossible to get rid of.


35 posted on 09/12/2017 9:17:05 AM PDT by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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