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Trump on DACA recipients: Does anyone really want to 'throw out' good, educated young people?
The Hill ^ | 9/15/17 | Rebecca Savransky

Posted on 09/14/2017 9:41:08 PM PDT by advance_copy

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To: advance_copy

“Start with Ted Kennedy, then Bushes, Clinton, Obama, and every despicable rotten filthy stinking politician that did this to our country”

But in the final analysis, we the collective citizens put them in power. You can hardly blame the illegals for that.

That’s why I say it’s important we recognize that WE the citizens are the ones most responsible for the immigration mess.

Taking it out on the illegals is completely missing the target and wasting our outrage. It’s a useless wild goose chase. Our anger should be directed against OUR politicians and bureaucrats that have been lying to us and working against the citizens interests for decades.

In other words, it’s time to man the pitchforks!!


61 posted on 09/14/2017 10:41:00 PM PDT by aquila48
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62 posted on 09/14/2017 10:41:14 PM PDT by easternsky
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To: advance_copy

Yes throw them out They broke the law. I can’t choose what laws I want to follow. Why should they?


63 posted on 09/14/2017 10:43:20 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: FreedomStar3028

We can never get a secure border. The Mexican border will always be porous.

Punish sanctuary citiesand employers big time. Jail for illegal entry. Tax remittances. And on and on.

The Dream stealers should be given grubstakes to go home and no perks if they stay. Deport parents. They are economic opportunists and usually haters and users of America. I know lots of “Mexicans” and 90% of them love Mexicof! Not the United States.

Otherwise we build a nation of non-patriots and die from within.


64 posted on 09/14/2017 10:44:01 PM PDT by amihow
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To: advance_copy

DACA is a direct path to amnesty just as gay civil unions were a direct path to gay marriage.


65 posted on 09/14/2017 10:49:50 PM PDT by Architect of Avalon
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To: advance_copy

Many people who get poetic about poor illegal immigrants are happy to let poor American citizens die on the streets.


66 posted on 09/14/2017 10:51:21 PM PDT by Architect of Avalon
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To: advance_copy
"Does anybody really want to throw out good, educated and accomplished young people who have jobs, some serving in the military?" Trump asked on Twitter

I don't tweet but count me as one. Of course it isn't like you promised or anything.

67 posted on 09/14/2017 10:53:03 PM PDT by itsahoot (As long as there is money to be divided, there will be division.)
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To: advance_copy
Anyone here illegally IS a criminal, period.

Technically they are not because Congress in their crooked wisdom decided that illegal entry into this country was only a misdemeanor.

68 posted on 09/14/2017 10:58:38 PM PDT by itsahoot (As long as there is money to be divided, there will be division.)
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To: Angels27

Yeah, you and the rest of the never Trumpers, who are now pretending they were Trumpsters all along, but they just can’t get past this “betrayal”.

Aren’t you all so very precious....


69 posted on 09/14/2017 10:58:58 PM PDT by moonhawk (My Basket of Deplorable is Irredeemably mired in the Swamp of Crazy.)
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To: cba123

He’ll promise the Wall, get assurances, and then feign surprise when it doesn’t come about. He can blame the GOPe and hope that his base can be fooled a second time.


70 posted on 09/14/2017 10:59:31 PM PDT by EliRoom8 (real)
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To: Snowybear

Rabbit’s foot?


71 posted on 09/14/2017 11:00:21 PM PDT by EliRoom8 (real)
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To: advance_copy

Well, I know we don’t want to see how sausage is made, so I understand there may be compromises ONCE THE WALL IS UP. But if it weren’t an issue getting our borders secure, here is what I would tell my President:

Dear President Trump,

No child should be literally punished for the acts of their parents. Yet every parent MUST know that his or her choices can harm his or her children, sometimes irreparably. If a single mom chooses to take street drugs and ends up losing custody of the child to the state, that harms her child. If daddy insists on robbing a liquor store, and ends up in jail, the kid has a horrible childhood. It is better for the child to have parents who CHOSE NOT TO BREAK THE LAW.

It is better to save our jobs and our university places for the children of parents who CHOSE TO LIVE LEGALLY in the USA. Who didn’t illegally enter and live among us as criminals.

I’m ok with some deal for the DACAs once the wall is up, though. Because that is politics. Wall first. But let’s not always seek to hurt good families and promote bad families. Priority for those who obey laws.


72 posted on 09/14/2017 11:07:16 PM PDT by Yaelle (Leftist trees bear strange fruit...blood on the leaves, blood on the root...)
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To: sparklite2
The generally cited number of illegals in the US has been 12 million from 1995 to around 2010 when it was reduced to 11 million as the amnesty push started to get rolling

This despite millions of illegals flooding the country on a yearly basis

In the Arizona Nogales sector, a 70 mile strip of border alone, the Border Patrol apprehended over 500,000 illegals a year and the Border Patrol estimated the fought only 1 in 5 illegal aliens crossing the border. That gives 2 million entering the US in the Nogales sector alone for 15 + years,

Add the 30 million crossing the border in the Nogales sector alone to the 12 million already here before the year 2000 and you get over forty million illegals with no difficulty

From another perspective, the generally accepted number for the depopulation of Mexico as if 2012 due to illegal immigration to el Norte is 20 million

Add that to the 12 million and you get 32 million as of 2012, and that only accounts for Mexican illegals. In fact, after 2010 Mexico has run out of people to ship to America so most illegals have been non Mexicans from all over the world, especially South and Central America

From the US census , the American population as of 2006 was nominally 267 million people and by 2012 that number had grown to about 306 million

The US census bureau attributed the rapid rise to ‘immigration” because citizen population growth was close to flat for that period. Legal immigration in the time period was around 3 million so the added 36 million people were predominantly here due to illegal immigration

Add that number to the 12 million and you get 48 million

Bottom line is that the 11 million media number is BS propaganda and somewhere between 1 in 10 to 1 in 8 of the people currently residing within the US borders is an illegal alien

73 posted on 09/14/2017 11:13:39 PM PDT by rdcbn
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To: Helicondelta

What about their parents and what about when they have kids. Are those kids citizens? This is a mess and its not ours.


74 posted on 09/14/2017 11:17:45 PM PDT by datricker (The wall will protect the border and be a symbol the voters do have a say in their government.)
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To: rdcbn

bump


75 posted on 09/14/2017 11:19:22 PM PDT by Pelham (Liberate California. Deport Mexico Now)
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To: Angels27
Trump was a flaming liberal all along.

That is ridiculous - do you truly believe that? He might not be the most ideological among us but flaming liberal?

76 posted on 09/14/2017 11:23:35 PM PDT by datricker (The wall will protect the border and be a symbol the voters do have a say in their government.)
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To: sparklite2
In the interests of full disclosure, the US Census numbers I gave and time line was from memory and may not be exact

The original source for the census numbers was a USA Today headline news story circa 2012 titled something like America's population crosses 300 million for first time

Many here will vigorously dispute any assertion that USA Today is a credible news source, but there you have it.

77 posted on 09/14/2017 11:28:05 PM PDT by rdcbn
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To: advance_copy

Winner!


78 posted on 09/15/2017 12:34:05 AM PDT by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches, and get with what's real.)
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79 posted on 09/15/2017 1:04:40 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (https://imgoat.com/uploads/645920e395/39513.gif)
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To: advance_copy

What an idiot.


80 posted on 09/15/2017 1:19:28 AM PDT by Ray76 (Republicans are a Democrat party front group.)
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