Posted on 09/18/2017 2:21:27 PM PDT by TBP
If Sanders has his way, 180 million Americans who currently have private coverage would have it ripped away and be automatically enrolled in public insurance.
Kids would be enrolled at birth.
Medicare for All doesn’t just offer government health insurance to the needy. It makes private coverage illegal, including the health coverage you get at your job. Employers are prohibited from covering workers, retirees and their families.
Sanders’ bill raises a critical question: If you’re seriously ill, will you be able to get the care you need?
BernieCare guarantees you hospital care, doctors’ visits, dental and vision care, mental health and even long-term care, all courtesy of Uncle Sam. Amazing, right? But read the fine print. You’ll get care only if it’s “medically necessary” and “appropriate.” Government bureaucrats will decide, and they’ll be under pressure to cut spending.
That’s because Sanders’ bill imposes an annual hard-and-fast dollar limit on how much health care the country can consume.
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Liberal politicians exempt, of course.
The only way doctors and hospitals can afford the low government payments is by limiting the number of Medicare and especially Medicaid patients and then overcharging the rest of their patients. What happens when every doctor’s bill is underpaid? They can’t all go into free market plastic surgery.
BurnTheBern
End socialist dreams in the USA.
Of course.
Special provisions for our elected gods...
If Sanders has his way, 180 million Americans who currently have private coverage would have it ripped away and be automatically enrolled in public insurance. Kids would be enrolled at birth. Medicare for All doesn’t just offer government health insurance to the needy. It makes private coverage illegal, including the health coverage you get at your job. Employers are prohibited from covering workers, retirees and their families.related:
Obamacare has struck again for us.
We are running into the mass production style of socialized medicine and quality is suffering.
Long story but the doctor's nurse, in her haste mistreated my wife and she has been recovering from it for over a week. Then we try to set up an appointment so that they can treat the problems that they created and it is “so sorry” it is two days before they can see her. She was so miserable, she went to urgent care today at more expense to us. At least they saw her and treated her and hopefully she is on the road to recovery.
Plus the office staff just plain nasty. That was before our recent experience.
Lastly, we are paying full price for our premium (no subsidy for us) and coverage sucks and so there usually a huge bill with every visit.
Can it get any worse? I guess that it can.
They'll just tax it at 33%. That is the other shoe to drop with Obamacare.
Only, Obamacare is not too popular right now and those nasty Republicans control all three branches of the government. Time to switch gears to single payer — but wait a few more years until people hate Obamacare even more. Then they will be ripe for the picking and ready for single payer.
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...But read the fine print. You’ll get care only if it’s “medically necessary” and “appropriate.” Government bureaucrats will decide, and they’ll be under pressure to cut spending...
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While the rich\elite\connected are exempted as they travel the planet, obtaining the greatest medical care they can find/afford.
Want to see just how ‘grand’ the plan is?: Make it ILLEGAL for any entity to leave a/o ENTER the U.S. for ANY medical care, procedure...down to hang-nail; no card = no service.
How many would make good on their ‘threat’ to leave the country for greener pastures then?
There is greater demand than supply, therefore SOME mechanism will allocate this resource.
I can really only see three such mechanisms:
-government
-insurance companies
-free market.
From my own perspective, after working continuously from graduation until my 50th birthday, I was laid off when my company closed the building. All of a sudden after playing the game by the rules for 30 years I was now unemployed and , through no fault but bad genetics, had a ‘pre existing condition’ where I simply could not purchase coverage at any price. Not like I smoked or got fat, something that ran in the family. Without coverage for folks in situations like mine- not fat smoking chip eating slops or junkies - no coverage through no fault of one’s own is pretty much a death sentence.
When the alternative is slow and painful and expensive death due to some insurance company flack saying ‘no coverage for you (even though you’ve paid every premium for 30 years), then ‘big government’ is not as abhorrent as some on FR might think.
I lucked out, 1600 job apps, 30 interviews, 6 jobs (all crappy) in a year (51 weeks)and I got another job with coverage. If I hadn’t, well, even the worst commiecare is better than nothing, at least I can now see how and why people can believe and vote that way.
Can we put a national referendum on the ballot regarding single payer? Just the idea. I’ll accept the results either way. At least it just might shut them up for awhile. 2018 would be good. Single payer, Obamacare, or heaven forbid market based solutions.
Don't blame progressives. They are who they are.
When have Republicans or influential conservatives ever made the case against government-run healthcare besides Reagan in '64?
Republicans helped pass Medicare/Medicaid, they got on board with SCHIP after Hillarycare failed, and they're refusing to repeal Obamacare.
Business would get a huge cost off their books.
This may be like amnesty. Tell the voters one thing and the donors another.
Do people understand that Medicare sucks and it is the secondary that determines what will happen to you?
Obamacare is like the crap people put up with in Canada and the UK. If you are a Christian, please look into Medishare. It’s a better way to get coverage, and it is exempt from Obamacare rules.
Betsy McCaughey, it says she returned to the party in 2010, it’s bizarre why she ever left. She just got a big head and clashed with Pataki?
The insurance gimmick is that they have a magic number in their mind where people only go and visit the doctor x-number of times per year and only x-number are catastrophic in nature. All of this adds up to a certain amount and they charge you enough to make around a 1,000 dollars a year off each individual....to cover cost, profit, and dividends to stock-holders.
As much as everyone would like to think that the insurance people and the medical-business people work hand-in-hand....they are working against each other, with passion. If the medical folks can charge you $12 for a 12-cent aspirin while doing an in-patient deal...then the insurance people are forced into paying the $12, and they simply pass the cost onto you in the end.
At some point, we will all come to realize this relationship and how screwed up it is...and how Congress and the agenda crowd fell into supporting one side over the other.
In essence, there is no free market left. Both groups are pushing the game to a bitter end where there are no winners.
Obamacare has already affected the quality of care and it is not good.
The best way to describe it is mass production health care. Stamp us out like widgets and who cares about the consequences or the personalized care. It is indeed like DMV medicine.
We don't have a lot of history with this new doctor that was forced upon us by Obamacare. Our old doctor of 20 years was great and they knew us each personally.
But Obama forced us to change our doctor to this new practice and so far, they are not that impressive — “you can keep your doctor.”
Yes, I blame Obama. It is his name that is stamped all over this monstrosity along with the bold face lies that he and the rest told us.
Worst of all, according to the Obamacare rules, it is a hassle to change our primary care doc. So even if we wanted to change doctors, we can't. We are stuck.
I don’t know, she was just... strange. She used to be Betsy Ross, as she was married to Trump’s Treasury Secretary back in the ‘90s, Wilbur Ross (he was a Democrat in those days).
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