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To: SeekAndFind

There are two things that are most disturbing.

First, that this happened at all.

Second, that this obvious lawlessness and lack of ethics or reason with respect to following our Constitution did not result in wide-spread dissent.

We have no choice but to dismantle the CIA, FBI, and NSA.

This starts with allowing every American to inspect the records they have on us.

We need to prosecute not just the past leadership of these organizations, we need
To prosecute the employees who participated in lawlessness.

We don’t have a choice now. Reform is not possible.

We need to consider what replaces them


7 posted on 09/21/2017 8:04:33 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: RFEngineer

That’s impossible.

It will never be allowed to happen.

The Constitution died on Usurpation Day, January 20, 2009

The Kenyanesian Usurpation has corrupted EVERY agency of our government.


9 posted on 09/21/2017 8:08:36 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: RFEngineer

Agree. You are right.


24 posted on 09/21/2017 9:14:56 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: RFEngineer

“In questions of power...let no more be heard of confidence in
man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the
Constitution.” —Thomas Jefferson: Kentucky Resolutions, 1798.


25 posted on 09/21/2017 9:19:12 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: RFEngineer

3rd most of the sheep in this country don’t care.

NOthing will happen and it will drop in the memory hole.


26 posted on 09/21/2017 9:20:24 PM PDT by zek157
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To: RFEngineer

“We have no choice but to dismantle the CIA, FBI, and NSA.
This starts with allowing every American to inspect the records they have on us.
We need to prosecute not just the past leadership of these organizations, we need to prosecute the employees who participated in lawlessness.”

This is exactly what has happened. And the NSA and CIA were created to protect us from another Pearly Harbor, that’s it. They have been a source of almost constant war since their creation. They have caused America to be held in contempt by most of the world.

75 years from now, the NSA and CIA will be generally spoken of the war we speak of the Gestapo, NKVD, and SS.


28 posted on 09/21/2017 9:41:21 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up.)
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To: RFEngineer
From a Daniel Greenfield September 20th column at FrontPageMag.com:

Once Obama and his allies launched their domestic surveillance operation, they crossed the Rubicon. And there was no way back. They had to destroy President Trump or risk going to jail.

Each act of illegal surveillance became more blatant. And when illegal surveillance couldn’t stop Trump’s victory, they had to double down on the illegal surveillance for a coup.

The more Obama spied on Trump, the more he had to keep doing it. This time it was bound to pay off.

The left is sitting on the biggest crime committed by a sitting president. The only way to cover it up is to destroy his Republican successor.

A turning point in history is here.

If Obama goes down, the left will go down with him. If his coup succeeds, then America ends.

35 posted on 09/22/2017 1:56:56 AM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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