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‘It Undermines Integrity Of Elections’: Glitch Allows Non-U.S. Citizens In Pa. To Vote
CBS - Philly ^ | 09-22-2017 | By Pat Loeb

Posted on 09/22/2017 2:54:41 PM PDT by Red Badger

PHILADELPHIA (CBS) — Philadelphia City Commissioner Al Schmidt says a glitch in the state’s “motor-voter” process has allowed non-U.S. citizens to register to vote, even though he thinks they did so accidentally.

The glitch has had no impact on elections, as the number of people mistakenly registered was small, but Schmidt thinks that statewide there could be many more and he wants the state to review registrations. He also wants it to cross check all active voter registration records against all current PennDOT records containing INS Indicators.

Secretary of State Pedro Cortes issued a statement saying PennDOT is changing its system to prevent the problem in the future and has already made improvements. He did not address reviewing and cross checking registrations statewide. A spokeswoman for Cortes said they are conducting their own review.

Voting advocates say Schmidt’s concern is misplaced and they worry more about voter suppression, with a Trump administration panel looking for fraud even where there is no evidence of any.

Schmidt hastens to say he does not consider the non-citizen registrations as fraud.

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“Voter fraud implies intent,” says Schmidt. “Voting irregularity is a vote that was not a legitimate vote but it’s not cast with the intention to commit fraud.”

Schmidt says 220 non-citizens have registered in the last 12 years and 90 of them actually voted.

He found three-quarters of them signed up when they got their driver’s license. He believes that’s because — even though they told PennDOT they were non-citizens — the automatic screens used during the process asked if they also wanted to register to vote. Non-citizens, living here legally, are allowed to drive but not vote, but Schmidt thinks they didn’t realize that.

“Maybe they think it’s a sign of their civic participation and then find out down the line they’re not eligible to vote and they contact our office and ask that their registration be cancelled,” he says.

He says there may be many more who didn’t contact the office.

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David Thornburgh, president and CEO of the election watchdog, The Committee of Seventy, doubts that.

“I can’t believe this would be the tip of the iceberg,” he says. “I don’t understand why this surfaces right now. This is a miniscule number, about .02 percent of all the city’s registered voters. I don’t get it.”

Thornburgh points to a study by the non-partisan Keystone Votes that found 17,000 registrations in Philadelphia were processed late, making the potential disenfranchisement of legitimate voters a bigger problem than the accidental registering of non-citizens.

But Schmidt says he has another concern.

“It undermines the integrity of elections and it undermines their own chances of becoming citizens,” Schmidt says. “That’s very unfair, as well.”

Cortes agrees and says the state was taking action even before it heard from Schmidt. Here is his statement:

“In August 2016, the department changed the order and simplified the language of the Motor Voter screens. After selecting a language, applicants are immediately asked if they are U.S. citizens. If the answer is no, the process stops and no further Motor Voter questions are presented to the PennDOT customer.

“At the same time, we increased the number of languages offered with Motor Voter screens from only English and Spanish to an additional 12 options. The enhancement is in place at 89 of 97 PennDOT locations and the rollout will be complete in a few weeks. This will greatly reduce the chances of PennDOT’s non-citizen customers inadvertently clicking through the screen.

“Additionally, the department is changing the Motor Voter system so non-citizens will not even see the Motor Voter screens. We are also placing additional notices to inform all applicants of laws regarding voter registration.

“The Department of State, the Department of Transportation and Pennsylvania’s county election professionals are committed to protecting the rights of eligible citizens to vote. The freedom we cherish was built on this right and generations of Americans have fought to remove unfair barriers to this right.”


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: 2016swingstates; motorvoter; paping; penndot; voteregistration; voterfraud
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Yeah, 'glitch'! That's the ticket!

A Russian Glitch!................

1 posted on 09/22/2017 2:54:41 PM PDT by Red Badger
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To: Red Badger
Voting advocates say Schmidt’s concern is misplaced and they worry more about voter suppression

"Voter suppression" my rear end. In this case, real "voting advocates" would worry about voting fraud.

2 posted on 09/22/2017 2:58:22 PM PDT by FreeReign
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3 posted on 09/22/2017 3:00:24 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (John McBane is the turd in the national puch-bowl.)
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To: Red Badger

Glitch????

Glitch>>>>>!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Was....The Prince Of Fools A Glitch?????
C’Mon NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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4 posted on 09/22/2017 3:07:30 PM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: Red Badger

It’s not a “glitch” in motor voter, it’s a feature.


5 posted on 09/22/2017 3:09:30 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Red Badger

What is Schmidt saying?

That illegal aliens are too stupid to understand that they cannot vote in a country they are living in illegally?


6 posted on 09/22/2017 3:25:07 PM PDT by joshua c (To disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives)
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To: Red Badger
Integrity of elections?

Hillary Clinton and Debbie Wasserman Schultz have the answer.

7 posted on 09/22/2017 3:32:28 PM PDT by Bogie
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To: Red Badger
““In August 2016, the department changed the order and simplified the language of the Motor Voter screens. After selecting a language, applicants are immediately asked if they are U.S. citizens. If the answer is no, the process stops and no further Motor Voter questions are presented to the PennDOT customer.”

So, Pennsylvania is depending upon illegal aliens, who have already broken one law or many by entering the US illegally, to answer “no”, I'm not a US citizen? Then if they lie and register to vote, they trust them to not vote?

Isn't Philadelphia where Mitt Romney got no votes at all? Isn't Pennsylvania where over 100 percent of voters vote?

8 posted on 09/22/2017 3:42:33 PM PDT by Yulee (Village of Albion)
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Philadelphia City Commissioner Al Schmidt says a glitch in the state’s “motor-voter” process has allowed non-U.S. citizens to register to vote...

Law working as planned I'd say.

9 posted on 09/22/2017 4:02:19 PM PDT by libertylover (Inhabitants of Earth with any freedom probably have the USA to thank.)
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To: Red Badger

Sounds like advanced CYA


10 posted on 09/22/2017 4:34:11 PM PDT by khelus
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a glitch in the state’s “motor-voter” process has allowed non-U.S. citizens to register to vote, even though he thinks they did so accidentally.

Well knock me over with a feather. Didn't the big mouth dims dare President Trump to find even one case?

11 posted on 09/22/2017 4:36:03 PM PDT by pfflier
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Secretary of State Pedro Cortes

Yessirree, the Puerto Rican professional hispanic will get things straightened reeeellll soon...

Right after he and his companeros vote themselves into office over the gringos on the votes of illegals registered by him

12 posted on 09/22/2017 4:45:55 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: Red Badger

No glitch. When people screw up, they excuse themselves by saying “glitch,” hoping a brain-dead public will blame it on the computer.


13 posted on 09/22/2017 4:54:10 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Constantly doing things in opposition to human nature is insanity.)
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To: FreeReign
>Schmidt’s concern is misplaced and they worry more about voter suppression, with a Trump administration panel looking for fraud even where there is no evidence of any.<

Repeating the LIE.

14 posted on 09/22/2017 5:05:03 PM PDT by ex91B10
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To: All

Glitch, twitch.


15 posted on 09/22/2017 5:20:12 PM PDT by veracious (UN = OIC = Islam ; Democrats may change USAgov completely, just amend USConstitution)
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To: Red Badger

Yeah, we know we can trust Pedro Cortes to get to the bottom of illegals voting. The people of PA aren’t too bright, are they.


16 posted on 09/22/2017 5:41:02 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Yulee

That’s Philly, not PA as a whole.


17 posted on 09/22/2017 5:58:38 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: Red Badger

Secretary of State Pedro Cortes .... accident, riiiigggghhhhttt!


18 posted on 09/22/2017 6:23:53 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Start using cash and checks or the elite class and bankers will make "cashless" the norm.)
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To: Red Badger

Lets think this through. These are LEGAL residents. The one’s who waited in line and played by the rules. I would think they are a bit annoyed at the illegals who just showed up and started demanding things.

My father has lived in this country 60+ years, yet is not a citizen. He’s never voted, but if he did he’s about as rock-ribbed a Republican as you’d find.

Of course..... realistically he’s likely in the minority.


19 posted on 09/22/2017 6:57:31 PM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: txrefugee

Non-citizens aren’t necessarily illegals.


20 posted on 09/22/2017 6:58:17 PM PDT by bigdaddy45
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