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Star Trek Discovery Live Thread
September 24, 2017

Posted on 09/24/2017 4:31:46 PM PDT by EveningStar

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To: EveningStar

Missed it. I’d be curious as to how my fellow Trekkers felt about it.

(I do thank Gene Roddenberry for inventing the flip phone.)


61 posted on 09/24/2017 6:55:33 PM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Only their self-aggrandizement matters.)
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To: EveningStar
It wasn't bad. The two main characters were very good and well played.

I was surprised when the Klingon commander accepted an outsider based on his loyalty. If the Klingons are supposed to represent Trump supporters, then they ended up going against the leftist accusations.

I don't know what's coming, but based solely on the pilot I would say my fears were unfounded.

62 posted on 09/24/2017 7:00:37 PM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (Prayers for our country and President Trump)
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To: madison10
Fear they will just be trying to push a political agenda.

I could put up with (and ignore) that, as long as the story is good. Star Trek in all of its incarnations has always been a hit-and-miss affair, with misses outweighing the hits by quite a bit at times. We'll see.
63 posted on 09/24/2017 7:05:33 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: HamiltonJay

les moonves is clueless as to the nuances of star trek vs star wars. (he’s a pew pew and space monsters in rubber suits kind of mind set)

net fliks paid for this PC fiasco.

it is been fuel by the leftist homosexual drivel socialists.

they HATE the original series.


64 posted on 09/24/2017 7:07:36 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

I won’t pay to watch, but i will call the near episodes. The Klingons will destroy the ship unless the one who kills their lamplighter surrenders. michael surrenders and wins a one-on-ome combat for life against a klingon warrior the one who is the son of none. Then the ship its allowed to leave because she won the battle but there is no peace agreed upon.


65 posted on 09/24/2017 7:10:09 PM PDT by morphing libertarian (Imprison Obama, Clintons, Holder, lynch now.)
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To: King Moonracer

and I think a bond flick with Remington Steele


66 posted on 09/24/2017 7:10:50 PM PDT by morphing libertarian (Imprison Obama, Clintons, Holder, lynch now.)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

swing and a miss...

(swish and a miss?)

anyone notice the abbreviation is STD?


67 posted on 09/24/2017 7:10:52 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory

Well like I said, forget all the pc non pc arguments on this show, from what I saw, it was just bad... this isn’t a case of a good show ruined by pc... this is just bad tv... like I said came across to me, as just trying too hard and not quite making it.

Didn’t suffer from low production values or bad acting... just from what I saw, it just doesn’t seem to work at a fundamental level.


68 posted on 09/24/2017 7:40:22 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

I’m sure they weren’t going for this effect, but to me, the Klingons came across as a vague analogy of the Islamic movement.

24 tribes reuniting according to an ancient prophecy from their spiritual leader, gathering for a great crusade against the interlopers.

Interesting.


69 posted on 09/24/2017 7:49:59 PM PDT by Bratch ("The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke)
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To: EveningStar

Michelle Yeoh is going to be killed off and the human-raised-by-Klingons lady is the new captain.


70 posted on 09/24/2017 7:50:22 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: GSWarrior

Oops. Raised by Vulcans, not Klingons.


71 posted on 09/24/2017 7:51:33 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: GSWarrior

we got you I thought that was why they made her special guest star. Also I’m guessing she has movies lined up here or in asia.


72 posted on 09/24/2017 7:55:53 PM PDT by morphing libertarian (Imprison Obama, Clintons, Holder, lynch now.)
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To: EveningStar

I’ll watch, unless I got to watch paint dry...Libs wrecked Gene’s show by having an openly gay member of the crew...Really?


73 posted on 09/24/2017 8:01:02 PM PDT by ConservaTeen (Islam is Not the Religion of Peace, but The religion of Pedophilia...)
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To: ducttape45

Where are the gay characters? I have not seen any yet. Show is rather disjointed, but the first ones usually are.


74 posted on 09/24/2017 8:10:28 PM PDT by madison10 (Praying for President Trump and more wisdom for him)
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To: ConservaTeen

I DVR’ed it, forgetting how much grief CBS caused me in the past as I DVR’ed The Good Wife, and CBS pushed the schedule down to make up for the NFL game. In this case when I went to view the recorded program I got twenty minutes of Oprah. And as a result, Trek got twenty minutes chopped off of the end.

What I did see was good graphics. The human activity felt dumbed down and feminized. Fair warning, though, one of my favorite episodes on STNG was where the Enterprise was a ship of war and operated as such.

In this case, the captain is too touchy feely for me, seeming to be less in command than running by consensus. The human male characters were uninteresting. This Star Trek is made more for the Lifetime network and the ladies.

As for the Klingons, all the episode’s masculinity was vested in them in a grotesque fashion. Verdict? It’s the masculinity-is-bad fad running amok in the US.

No way would I pay for the next episode.


75 posted on 09/24/2017 8:27:16 PM PDT by sparklite2 (I'm less interested in the rights I have than the liberties I can take.)
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To: GSWarrior; big'ol_freeper; Impy; SevenofNine; Cletus.D.Yokel; Rummyfan; Liberty Valance; NFHale; ...
Re: Hope I am wrong and the series overcomes my expectation but not wagering the farm on it—

Okay, just watched the first two episodes and will not call a spoiler alert as I will not give away anything from the second episode.

Besides my previous comments on uniforms looking too ST: The Motion Picture-ish for my taste and lens flare-ish effects, the plot is not too shabby-- However, the production choices do not conform to "Star Trek: The Original Series" history as they have made a firm choice to not have anything close to cannon.

The side-teleporting and long distance communications with the Admiral and Sarek appearing via a 'Star Wars' hologram look are nowhere near the suggested timeline technology of 10 years before Kirk. As feared, the mention of Star Fleet being PC explorers not soldiers flies in the face of all the warmongering Kirk did in the first three years of the Original Series.

The Klingons are all on supercalifragilistic steroids and not in the good way. They nothing like any of the Klingon characters on the Original Series. They are way more surreal than even any of the other Klingon look of the later series and films.

All my low expectations are there but the plot line has me interested in watching more.

Yet I have to ask why did they not just keep the production style of the Original Series and keep within cannon. To me, that would have been more ingenious than going out in far left field to see how they could 'improve' on the Original Series era.

Staying in the Original Series production style would have been much superior to what they offered up tonight.

What they did offer up may turn into a watchable series with interesting plot lines but it sure as hell ain't the "Star Trek" that Kirk, Spock and Bones gave us.

76 posted on 09/24/2017 8:32:22 PM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: HamiltonJay

les moonves thought THIS was to be the flagship of payCBS.

what an oblivious fool.


77 posted on 09/24/2017 8:57:58 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Bender2

unwatchable pc mess.

not worth paying for or buying into. Star Trek died with jjabrams and tonight time of death was called.


78 posted on 09/24/2017 9:00:42 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Bender2; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj

I watched the first ep, will watch the 2nd one later.

The uniforms look nice, but as you say, don’t fit the era. Holographic Communication with Admirals, a likely technology to develop but not present hundreds of the years in the future in other Star Trek works.

With all due respect to Miss Michael Learned, that’a boy’s name, apparently it’s a hallmark of the producer. I’ll be calling her Brown Sugar. She’s ok, I liked her moxie, and it’s an interesting change having the protagonist not be the Captain. I still feel her connection with Sarek is patently unnecessary but the Vulcan school bubbles are fun.

These Klingons looks like they evolved from bedbugs or something, clearly they wanted to make them look more alien, and they certainly did that, I think Klingons are so well established now that such a radical change was iffy (I also felt Klingons have been explored to death and need not be part a new show). Their clothes were weird. Maybe it’s cause they’re a cult. Klingon religious extremists? Ok, semi-interesting. An Albino Klingon who’s been disowned by his family? Hm.

I liked Michelle Yoeh’s character, too bad she’s not a regular. I also like the alien science officer. I wish they had an Andorian character, that’a founding federation member that’s gotten very little exploration.

High production values.

All in all I expected little and had no anticipation to watch it but at first impression it seems halfway decent.


79 posted on 09/24/2017 9:03:29 PM PDT by Impy (The democrat party is the enemy of your family and civilization itself, forget that at your peril.)
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To: longtermmemmory

SyFy ran a Battlestar Galactica over the weekend which contrasted mightily with Star Trek. It was like the difference between a main feature and a cartoon.


80 posted on 09/24/2017 9:07:37 PM PDT by sparklite2 (I'm less interested in the rights I have than the liberties I can take.)
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