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Steyn On-line ^ | September 25, 2017 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 09/25/2017 10:13:54 AM PDT by Twotone

On Saturday night, at the end of a speech on immigration, I was asked by a lady in the audience about Sunday's impending election in Germany. She had met a young Teutonic chappie who said he was voting for Angela Merkel, and she couldn't understand why. And I said that Frau Merkel was certain to win the election, but what would be important to watch would be the respective strengths of the losing parties: my questioner's chum was voting Merkel because he feared the rise of the "far right" - ie, AfD, Alternative für Deutschland - but I suggested that AfD would do better than expected.

That was a rather boring and cautious prediction, but the post-Nazi complex proportional-representation electoral system was designed by the Allies specifically to produce boring results, and to make anything non-boring all but impossible. And by those standards Sunday was the biggest stunner in seventy years.

(Excerpt) Read more at steynonline.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Germany; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: afd; angelamerkel; germanyelection; marksteyn; steyn

1 posted on 09/25/2017 10:13:54 AM PDT by Twotone
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To: Twotone
That was a fairly enlightening article.

Thanks Twotone.

2 posted on 09/25/2017 10:29:10 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (John McBane is the turd in the national puch-bowl.)
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To: Twotone

Merkel and her minions seem to think the best bet is to double down on open borders. The more non-Germans that come in and vote, the more chance of them staying in power.
Sort of like the dems are doing over here by importing families and children from Latin (socialist) countries. A war of attrition.


3 posted on 09/25/2017 10:30:34 AM PDT by ArtDodger
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To: ArtDodger

So the Germans vote for Merkal for fear that the Rightests would turn into Nazis. When the Muslims start the civil war that they plan to do a little crystal-nacht of their own, you will see all the Germans start looking for the Nazis to save them. It seems its all or nothing with them.


4 posted on 09/25/2017 10:48:54 AM PDT by joegoeny ("Nuts!")
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To: DoughtyOne

“If the political culture forbids respectable politicians from raising certain topics, then the electorate will turn to unrespectable ones.”

Precisely.


5 posted on 09/25/2017 11:05:38 AM PDT by linear (The truth brooks no arbiters.)
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To: linear

True...

And thus they become the respectable, and the former the un-respectable.


6 posted on 09/25/2017 11:29:28 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (John McBane is the turd in the national puch-bowl.)
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To: Twotone

A truly excellent read. Thank you for posting it. I’d have missed this otherwise.


7 posted on 09/25/2017 11:47:18 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Why defend the EU?)
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To: ArtDodger
The more non-Germans that come in and vote,

Uh, no. They have no vote. Until they have German citizenship; which few will ever get, and if so, many, many years down the road. Unlike in the US which has no robust defense against non-eligible voters.

8 posted on 09/25/2017 12:44:09 PM PDT by Moltke (Reasoning with a liberal is like watering a rock in the hope to grow a building)
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To: Moltke

Hope it holds. Here in the USA, some places are welcoming the illegals to vote. Anything to get a dem win!


9 posted on 09/25/2017 12:49:32 PM PDT by ArtDodger
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To: Twotone

I don’t always agree with Steyn on all points, but this is a pretty good and fair assessment.


10 posted on 09/25/2017 12:52:27 PM PDT by Moltke (Reasoning with a liberal is like watering a rock in the hope to grow a building)
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To: ArtDodger

The (radical) left would have the same for Germany, but it would take some fundamental constitutional changes - i.e., not happening any time soon, if ever.

Voter ID is pretty strictly enforced, though by means that Americans would probably balk at: Mandatory place-of-residence registration and national picture ID. Only German citizens are on the voter rolls, and they check at the polls. If the alternative is having your country stolen by illegal immigrants, what would you have? (Don’t fall for the “Papiere bitte!” nonsense - I haven’t had to show my national ID to any cop in the past 30 years...)


11 posted on 09/25/2017 1:04:38 PM PDT by Moltke (Reasoning with a liberal is like watering a rock in the hope to grow a building)
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To: ArtDodger

PS: Someone might quote in that regard the - as such beautiful - Benjamin Franklin sentiment “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.”

Which IMHO works well in a largely homogenous society, but in the reality of the 2017 status with tens of millions of illegal immigrants intent on destroying their host country should perhaps be reconsidered. Penicillin was invented for good reason...


12 posted on 09/25/2017 1:30:09 PM PDT by Moltke (Reasoning with a liberal is like watering a rock in the hope to grow a building)
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To: Moltke

All informative. Thank you.


13 posted on 09/25/2017 5:58:49 PM PDT by ArtDodger
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