Posted on 09/28/2017 9:45:31 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
China today announced commissioning the radar-evading J-20 stealth fighter jets into military service, giving its air force an edge in the region.
The flight tests of J-20 jets are being conducted as scheduled, spokesperson for the Ministry of National Defence Col Wu Qian told a media briefing here.
The J-20 is China's fourth-generation medium and a long-range fighter jet. It made its maiden flight in 2011 and was first shown to the public at the 11th Airshow China in Zhuhai, Guangdong Province, in November last year.
Its introduction could add a new dimension to the India- China air force balance.
Pakistan has already expressed its interest in acquiring it.
The US air force operates the F-22 Raptor which is the fifth generation stealth air superiority fighter.
It looks too big and overweight to be a ‘stealth fighter’...........
OK.Now that these J-20’s are flying we should go out and determine how capable they actually are.
How many F-22s did we actually buy Vs. how many were originally ordered. I know Obama cut this purchase but I forget the actual numbers.
How can it be “stealth” with all those radar-friendly surfaces?
I think this aircraft is an interdictor specifically to hunt AWACS plane. As you mention it too big to be a traditional dog fighter.
AWACS and fuel tankers. If you can find and take out the fuel tankers, the fighters and bombers may have a problem.
“OK.Now that these J-20’s are flying we should go out and determine how capable they actually are.”
We already know we can see them from over 100 miles away with IR sensors. Even our missiles can get a radar lock on them.
And we already know they can’t see the F-22 or the F-35.
And that’s all WE need to know. However, the Chinese have dozens of unanswered questions.
Have you seen how big the F-22 is? It’s enormous.
I think it’s going to be ‘stealthy’ like the F-15SE is - reduced signature versus older aircraft of the same generation, but not a full stealth design.
They may have a point - if it can haul AWACS killer missiles (which are pretty damn big) it doesn’t matter that they’re going up against F-22s beyond visual range because the F-22s will have to light up their radars once the AWACS is down and they can fire BVR missiles that home on radar.
In the case of the AWACS going down and the F-22s not lighting up their own radars but proceeding to close to visual range to acquire targets by eyeball, they seem to be designed along the lines of some pre-stealth hyper-agility designs. That could be a nasty surprise for the F-22 - as has already happened in a number of exercises against things like Tornadoes and Indian MiGs.
Citations please.
Pic no workie.
There are multiple references on the open web.
If you need to see them, look them up.
Focus on IR sensors and the F-22 and especially the F-35.
It’s a picture of the F-22 VS the J-20 side by side..................
It looks like they copied and stole plans from various jets. I am not an expert but I do know we once thought China would never get close to our abilities on the land,sea and air in regards to military technology. If we keep shuffling our feet,the Chicoms will catch up to be rather formidable within 20 years if they actually don’t collapse.
We bought 187 operational F-22s. The original order was to be for 750, then 648.
The Obama Admin made a grand spectacle of their cancellation of future F-22 production and said that should we need more, well, they’d saved the tooling so it wouldn’t be that hard to make more.
Well, it turns out the tooling for the F-22 is missing and may not have actually been stored in the first place.
“One recently retired Air Force official with direct knowledge about the service’s efforts to repair two damaged Raptors said that they faced severe difficulties with retrieving the correct tooling. In one example, Air Force maintainers needed to build a particular component from scratch to replace a severely damaged part for an F-22. The crews went into the Conex boxes where the tooling and instructions to build the part were allegedly stored, but to their considerable surprise and aggravation, the container was empty. The same pattern repeated itself several times—and as of the last time the source checked–the issue remains unresolved. The bottom line is that even if the Air Force wanted to, it may not be physically possible to restart the line—at least not without a huge additional investment in time and money.”
So, no, we can’t build more without redeveloping the craft. And those 187 (now reduced by crashes, maintenance issues like lack of parts and the like) aren’t going to last that long in a war against a major power - or even a proxy war with a major power.
Get “403: Forbidden” when clicking the link. Do you have a link for an article that it can be found in?
I don’t know why your system won’t show it.
Try this:
http://thedragonstales.blogspot.com/2011/02/j-20-round-up-whats-new-since-my-last.html
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