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China commissions J-20 stealth fighter into military service
Press Trust of India ^ | September 28, 2017

Posted on 09/28/2017 9:45:31 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

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To: Red Badger

Their server prevents hotlinking - no access to a graphic unless you’re a registered user or have first tried to load a page hosted on their server containing the graphic. Common anti-freeloading configuration these days.


21 posted on 09/28/2017 10:40:07 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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22 posted on 09/28/2017 10:41:21 AM PDT by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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To: Spktyr

https://blogs-images.forbes.com/quora/files/2014/07/main-qimg-e111111cc011ec11a1111f0e1111111111ebb11dac1111f11.jpg?width=960


23 posted on 09/28/2017 10:41:40 AM PDT by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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To: Spktyr

So we gave the important tooling parts to China? That sounds about right for Obama. (Speculating)


24 posted on 09/28/2017 10:42:50 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (You couldn't pay me enough to be famous for being stupid!)
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To: Red Badger

Anyway - yeah, the J-20 is larger than the F-22 (which is already very large for a single seater) - and that seems to be because of the size of the internal weapons bay. General consensus seems to be that the J-20’s bay is much larger than the F-22’s, which would be consistent with something intended to haul their very large AWACS-killers and big radar-seeking BVR missiles.

See this article: http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/7806/chinas-j-20-stealth-fighter-photographed-toting-massive-external-fuel-tanks


25 posted on 09/28/2017 10:47:47 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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Or, just as with prior US planes that were “too good” to be allowed to be put back into production, the tooling was destroyed - see the A-10 and F-14 for examples. Only this time it was done covertly.


26 posted on 09/28/2017 10:49:03 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Red Badger
That graphic worked, but I've seen it before. Part of the reason it's that big is because pretty much the front half of the main fuselage is a giant weapons bay, much larger than the one in the F-22.


27 posted on 09/28/2017 10:51:53 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Mariner

I am not seeing anything that states “we can see them on IR 100 miles away”. I see claims that US IR sensors can see that far, but nothing about this aircraft specifically.

I’d also remind you that in real world experience, IR sensor range is often severely degraded over their theoretical maximum range.


28 posted on 09/28/2017 10:56:09 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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Roger that. AWACS is essentially an outdated technology. The F-35 can fill the role very nicely. So I hope that’s the whole purpose of the J-20.


29 posted on 09/28/2017 11:01:43 AM PDT by afsnco (18 of 20 in AF JAG)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Notice how quick Red China took this from drawing board to operational?

No way that happens here.


30 posted on 09/28/2017 11:36:23 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: shanover

Ah NO! We are developing PLANES NOW, that the Public does not know of, but then we have been doing this for YEARS..


31 posted on 09/28/2017 2:47:11 PM PDT by hawg-farmer - FR..October 1998 (---->VMFA 235 '69 -'72 KMCAS <--- F4 PHANTOM... FLYING BRICK)
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Smallest of the 5th gen planes


32 posted on 10/26/2017 6:26:03 AM PDT by hattend
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To: Mariner

Sorry, but who can see what is highly classified. NONE of those citations are going to be those classified sources.

You really shouldn’t believe crap put out on the Internet.


33 posted on 10/26/2017 6:57:49 AM PDT by CodeToad (CWII is coming. Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: hawg-farmer - FR..October 1998

“We are developing PLANES NOW, that the Public does not know of,”

That’s not true anymore. The budgets for these programs are so HUGE and vast that there is simply no ability to keep their development secret anymore.

Recruiters are the worst for keeping such things secret. The little bimbos they hire to recruit are the leading telltale indication of a new program. You simply cannot hire as many people as they do and keep it a secret.

The management of such programs is also a bit retarded. In on program, while the particular aircraft program is classified SAP, Northrup has a tall cardboard advertising stand in its lobby touting its development by Northrup.

Maybe the general public doesn’t pay attention, but the common enthusiast knows all about the programs.


34 posted on 10/26/2017 7:09:15 AM PDT by CodeToad (CWII is coming. Arm Up! They Are!)
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