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To: doug from upland

Sorry, but this really is a mistake. The sheriff’s office, as an organ of the Florida state government, has to respect the 14th Amendment due process and equal protection clauses, and with it the First Amendment. So if the Miami Dolphins decide to take a knee and violate their terms of employment while in a stadium owned and managed by their employee, unless the owner decides to fire the lot of them and have them removed from the premises right before a game for said violation, the sheriff’s office cannot do squat. Now it really is a free speech issue, thanks to some overzealous cops.


28 posted on 09/29/2017 12:32:22 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Actually, it’s the ongoing special protection detail that’s against 14th Amendment rules. The police are not supposed to provide more protection to one group of people than others.

Also, with many such jobs, the officers are working security off-duty as a side job with the permission of their departments. They are basically unionized private security guards at that point and they are perfectly free to walk en masse.


32 posted on 09/29/2017 12:58:26 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Eleutheria5

IT has never been a free speech issue.

The players are employees, on company time.

The owners have every right to determine appropriate workplace behavior.

And players that “speak out” for a lie that encourages violence against police officers deserve nothing.


45 posted on 09/29/2017 3:22:40 AM PDT by exit82 (The opposition has already been Trumped!)
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To: Eleutheria5

From the article, it sounds like the escorts were not in the officer’s job description and were voluntary.

so the NFL reaps what it sows.

The officers get to have free speech too.


78 posted on 09/29/2017 6:42:59 AM PDT by CottonBall (Thank you, Julian)
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To: Eleutheria5
Sorry, but I find you to be on the wrong side of this issue! Yes, the Dolphins are private citizens, and as such, don't require "escorts" to get from point A to point B. They've committed not crime, so how does the 14th come into play? "The 14th amendment limits the action of state and local officials." They're (Sheriff's Office) limiting their actions!

Would you require the Sheriff's office personnel to escort you to and from the grocery store! And, every other citizen?

99 posted on 09/29/2017 7:48:36 AM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: Eleutheria5

Sheriff and police departments are required by the Constitution to escort football teams?


107 posted on 09/29/2017 8:30:21 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Eleutheria5

You are 100% correct.


113 posted on 09/29/2017 9:04:44 AM PDT by Mr.Unique (The government, by its very nature, cannot give except what it first takes.)
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To: Eleutheria5

And just where, exactly, is it written that a public law enforcement agency is required to provide private security for a sports team?

It’s certainly not an equal protection issue.


115 posted on 09/29/2017 9:40:45 AM PDT by Augie
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