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1 posted on 09/29/2017 5:19:10 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

More sniveling and whining from the left who can’t win in the arena of ideas.


2 posted on 09/29/2017 5:26:16 AM PDT by GT Vander (Life's priorities; God, Family, Country. Everything else is just details...)
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To: Kaslin

A big red herring. Districts have always been apportioned by population.


5 posted on 09/29/2017 5:33:21 AM PDT by captain_dave
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Slightly off topic, but does anyone remember that years ago, blacks were complaining that house districts were too “equal”, meaning they (minorities) didn’t have enough numbers in any one district to elect minority representatives?

So some districts were created to pack them with minorities and the expected result came to pass. But this process also left quite a few “majority-majority” districts that went more Republican than they otherwise would have.

Now there are complaints about that from some quarters. You just can’t please some people, it seems.


6 posted on 09/29/2017 5:33:36 AM PDT by SnuffaBolshevik
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To: Kaslin
The Wisconsin Democrats want to require districting plans to compensate for this clustering, presumably by drawing long tentacles that stretch from central cities through suburbs and to the countryside. That strategy, followed by Democratic redistricters in Maryland and Illinois, has produced the nation's most grotesquely shaped congressional districts.

Of course, Democrats complain when this strategy is used, too. Texas already uses a form of this. Several Congressional districts are anchored in the densely populated Rio Grande Valley. These so-called "bacon strip districts" extend hundreds of miles north into the GOP countryside in order to get sufficient population. The reason the GOP-dominated legislature created these districts was to create majority-minority (Hispanic) opportunity districts.

Democrats filed a lawsuit claiming the bacon strip districts were unconstitutional. I sincerely believe that to be a Democrat you must be perpetually upset about something.

8 posted on 09/29/2017 5:44:14 AM PDT by SSS Two
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The Wisconsin Democrats want to require districting plans to compensate for this clustering,
presumably by drawing long tentacles that stretch from central cities through suburbs and
to the countryside. That strategy, followed by Democratic redistricters in Maryland and
Illinois, has produced the nation's most grotesquely shaped congressional districts.

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Texas has one of those drawn districts for Shelia Jackson-Lee


9 posted on 09/29/2017 5:45:08 AM PDT by deport
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To: Kaslin

The Dems are packed into cities like rats in a corn crib.


10 posted on 09/29/2017 5:46:23 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Wake up and smell the Covfef)
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To: Kaslin

I’m going to have to comment on this one:

Yes, during the 1960s, the Courts tightened up allowed variance in population. This resulted in carving up of counties and municipalities. Basically, we shifted out of compact districts and communities of interest, into gerrymandered districts.

Then, the Congress in the VRA put a racial twist to this. Because of disparities in voting rates, minorities could be clumped into grotesquely gerrymandered districts so they would constitute a large majority within those districts and gain representation.

So far, I’m affirming Michael Barone, which is a good thing because he is a walking encyclopedia of American politics.

Now I’m going to diverge: The Courts are drifting away from the VRA district and grotesque gerrymanders because voting rates of blacks and whites have converged.

In this case, state laws requiring compact districts and communities of interest (in practice, counties and municipalities) must be more heavily considered by state legislatures and amalgamating minorities by crossing communities of interest less considered, or at least not considered as a means of diminishing minority representation.

In the Alabama cases, there was some evidence that the state legislature concentrated minorities into districts in order to gain a partisan advantage. The evidence, in my opinion, was kind of weak, but we’re not talking about a criminal proceeding where you need proof beyond a reasonable doubt.

As for this Wisconsin case, I think the state will prevail. The Democrats are trying to float a whole new theory of “equal protection,” namely, that parties (not individuals) should have equal protection. I think this argument will be rejected by the Supreme Court.


11 posted on 09/29/2017 5:52:12 AM PDT by Redmen4ever (u)
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To: Kaslin
The Wisconsin Democrats want to require districting plans to compensate for this clustering, presumably by drawing long tentacles that stretch from central cities through suburbs and to the countryside. That strategy, followed by Democratic redistricters in Maryland and Illinois, has produced the nation's most grotesquely shaped congressional districts.

Not all the Democrats feel this way. The current congressmen who benefit from solid urban districts LIKE getting overwhelming majorities and easy re-election wins.
12 posted on 09/29/2017 5:55:30 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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They have concocted an "efficiency index," showing that the state's district lines leave many more Democratic than Republican voters with legislators they oppose.

Enshrining formulas based on parties is not countenanced in the U.S. Constitution.
13 posted on 09/29/2017 5:59:09 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: Kaslin

Montana is disadvantaged in the House with a single District containing ~ 1,000,000 peeps.


15 posted on 09/29/2017 6:19:04 AM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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To: Kaslin

Only US citizens should be counted, no one else!


18 posted on 09/29/2017 6:45:12 AM PDT by PTBAA
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To: Kaslin
End majority minority districts as that is racial gerrymandering and unconstitutional and then watch the progressives s__t their pants.
20 posted on 09/29/2017 7:20:52 AM PDT by bonehead4freedom
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To: Kaslin
Blacks account for 13% of the population. To be fare and equitable, blacks should not make up any more than 15% of ANY congressional district.
21 posted on 09/29/2017 7:59:26 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob
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To: Kaslin; AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy; Galactic Overlord-In-Chief
But as I and others have argued, gerrymandering has contributed only marginally to Republican success. More important is demographic clustering. Democratic voters are heavily clustered in central cities, sympathetic suburbs, and university towns, while Republican voters are more evenly spread around.

Exactly. And it's only natural they should have their own districts and not infect those with a majority of normal people.

These filthy rats are in fact asking for court ordered gerrymandering, to have democrat tentacles poking into Republican districts. Filthy bastards.

23 posted on 09/29/2017 9:53:32 PM PDT by Impy (The democrat party is the enemy of your family and civilization itself, forget that at your peril.)
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To: Kaslin

The solution to gerrymandering is gerrymandering.

Got it!


24 posted on 09/29/2017 10:04:38 PM PDT by eddie willers
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