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The Shocking Truth About Term Limits
Townhall.com ^ | October 8, 2017 | Paul Jacob

Posted on 10/08/2017 7:08:47 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 10/08/2017 7:08:47 AM PDT by Kaslin
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“Term limits remain popular with the voting public, but critics say Michigan rules have thrust inexperienced legislators into complex policy issues they may be ill-equipped to address.”

What BS complex policy issues on the state level come on.


2 posted on 10/08/2017 7:19:18 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: riverrunner

Term Limits;

One term in office,

Two terms in Jail.


3 posted on 10/08/2017 7:20:56 AM PDT by EXCH54FE (Hurricane 416,Feisty Old Vet (Stand for the flag, kneel for the cross))
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Term limits didn’t really work in CA. People just rotated between offices every time they were termed out. Same crooks, different offices. If they happen to loose they just became lobbyists.


4 posted on 10/08/2017 7:23:26 AM PDT by InABunkerUnderSF (Dump Flake)
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To: Kaslin

We also need to dramatically reduce the size of congressional districts (at least 1/3rd of present size goal) while simultaneously mandating that district lines be drawn with the shortest possible average length of boundary line for adjacent districts, given the shape of the State and population distribution, to enclose the proper number of Persons (better: Citizens ... non-Citizens shouldn’t be counted towards representation) for that district, a task that could be accomplished by a computer that would result in lumpish shapes and entirely eliminate gerrymandering.

Let them hold meetings of the House and joint sessions of Congress at the football stadium.


5 posted on 10/08/2017 7:24:34 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

Yup. California went from bad to hellhole since term limits was implemented. Everything after 1996 there has been a nightmare of epic proportions.


6 posted on 10/08/2017 7:26:58 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Je Suis Pepe)
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To: Kaslin

It’s amazing. When these intellectual guys go all weepy-eyed and hype up the necessity of having long-term people....then you look over at McCain and McConnell to demonstrate their incompetence over and over, and wonder about all this complex material talk.


7 posted on 10/08/2017 7:28:12 AM PDT by pepsionice
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Top level unit commanders in the military are rotated out every two years. Most military personnel stay anywhere from 2 to 4 years on station.

Yet with this rapid turnover of personnel, our military manages to be one of the most effective forces in the world. Perhaps it’s because, instead of developing long-term quid-pro-quo relationships, the short time on station focuses military personnel on learning and doing the job.

Letting politicians entrench themselves in office, developing those sweetheart deals with lobbyists and big business at the expense of the people has not been good for the country.


8 posted on 10/08/2017 7:29:22 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

Here I like my old suggestion: “Whatever taxes are imposed, Members of Congress shall: Pay twice the imposition, percentage rate, as applicable; of any deductions or exemptions receive half the benefit of; this penalty shall continue till the fifth year after leaving Elected Office plus as well any time continuing thereafter in any other Branch of Government, including appointed and hired positions other than Military service, or engaging in professional lobbying.”


9 posted on 10/08/2017 7:31:30 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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I don’t believe in term limits for politicians. They should serve there full term with no parole or early release.


10 posted on 10/08/2017 7:34:20 AM PDT by Fai Mao (I still want to see The PIAPS in prison)
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To: Kaslin
We should keep the right perspective on the effectiveness of term limits. As I see it, we usually find one or both of the following problems with political leaders:

1. They are corrupt in office.

2. They lose touch with their constituents and see their office as nothing more than a guarantee of lifetime employment.

Term limits address #2, but they don't fix #1. In fact, you might find that term limits make #1 even worse ... because it gives elected leaders an incentive to legislate with their post-political career first and foremost in their minds.

The problem we have here isn't one of career politicians -- it's intrusive government meddling with no constraints. I would have no qualms about having a strict constitutionalist serving in Congress for 30+ years.

11 posted on 10/08/2017 7:58:50 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Tell them to stand!" -- President Trump, 9/23/2017)
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I don’t believe in term limits for politicians. They should serve there full term with no parole or early release.
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I don’t care who you are, that’s funny right there. Touche.


12 posted on 10/08/2017 8:14:58 AM PDT by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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...and claims legislators are ineffective because they have “one eye on that clock all the time instead of thinking, ‘I need to really fix this problem because it’s going to come back to haunt me.’”

Implying that elections really aren't something that would normally keep legislators with "one eye on the clock" - so consider the implications of that statement.

13 posted on 10/08/2017 8:41:54 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: exDemMom

Top level unit commanders in the military are rotated out every two years. Most military personnel stay anywhere from 2 to 4 years on station.


There are heavy costs with that system, but it works, mostly.


14 posted on 10/08/2017 8:43:56 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: Kaslin

As the song goes, “It’s easy if you try.”


Already tried. Would take a Constitutional amendment at the Federal level.


15 posted on 10/08/2017 8:45:21 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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“Term limits remain popular with the voting public, but critics say Michigan rules have thrust inexperienced legislators into complex policy issues they may be ill-equipped to address.”

What BS complex policy issues on the state level come on.

The appeal to 'experts'.

16 posted on 10/08/2017 8:53:09 AM PDT by IncPen (Put the 'climate researchers' under oath and have them explain their findings. Then we'll talk.)
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To: Kaslin

Here’s an idea:

The lower house of Congress should be chosen by lottery among the lower house representatives in the state legislatures, term limited to two terms and returned to their respective state houses after serving at the national level.


17 posted on 10/08/2017 9:06:14 AM PDT by Chuckster ("Them Rag Heads just ain't rational" Curly Bartley 1973)
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One of the biggest problems is the amount of time and effort spent on raising money. They arrive in Washington and immediately have to start raising money for the next election. Term limits would actually allow them time to legislate


18 posted on 10/08/2017 9:14:12 AM PDT by McGavin999 ("The press is impotent when it abandons itself to falsehood."Thomas Jefferson)
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Won’t work unless you also term-limit their staff people. Elsewise the staff become the all powerful and it will get much worse.


19 posted on 10/08/2017 10:05:23 AM PDT by Thom Pain (They are invaders! Not aliens/immigrants.)
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To: Chuckster

My idea is to hold a lottery where 500 residents of each Congressional district are selected every two years. Only those persons are eligible to run for Congress.


20 posted on 10/08/2017 11:37:06 AM PDT by TheConservator ("The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle)
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