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Raging Wine Country Wildfires Burn Homes; Force Evacuations
CBS SF Bay Area News ^ | 10/08/2017 | CBS Staff

Posted on 10/09/2017 11:49:48 AM PDT by Freedom56v2

NAPA (CBS SF) — Wind-whipped wildfires roared to life Sunday night and early Monday across Wine Country, burning building, forcing evacuations and injuring several people.

The Atlas Peak fire was the largest of several wildfires, quickly growing to more than 200 acres near Napa. Meanwhile, the fire near Calistoga had burned several building and sent several people to the hospital to be treated for burns.

Cal Fire said firefighters were battling several blazes in Sonoma County. The largest was in the area of Porter Creek Road and Petrified Forest Road near Calistoga where mandatory evacuations were ordered for residents along Porter Creek, Petrified Forest, Franz Valley and Mountain Home Ranch Rd.

Early Monday morning, the Sonoma County Sheriff’s Department said fires had erupted at Mark West Springs and Riebli roads in Santa Rosa, at Shiloh and Conde roads in Windsor and at Highway 116 and Fredericks Road in Sebastopol.

The fires had stretched Sonoma and Napa counties firefighting resources to the breaking point. A call for mutual aid was issued to other Bay Area fire departments.

(Excerpt) Read more at sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: evacuation; fire; napa; sonoma; wildfires; winecountry; wineries
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To: HereInTheHeartland; Diana in Wisconsin

Exactly.
Hundreds of homes gone and businesses

I think that picture is Coffee Park near Santa Rosa...

Said no police presence there tonight because nothing to loot :(

Just wow.


281 posted on 10/09/2017 8:14:58 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Freeper formerly known as bushwon ;))
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To: RedStateRocker

Are they coming or are things quiet?


282 posted on 10/09/2017 8:15:09 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: Freedom56v2

Any clues (beyond speculation) as to the cause of the fires?


283 posted on 10/09/2017 9:08:21 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Gene Eric; All

Any clues (beyond speculation) as to the cause of the fires?


Interesting you would ask this—I wondered about this, too, and found this article...

Clues? Diablo Winds...

https://qz.com/1098211/napa-fires-diablo-winds-are-causing-destructive-wildfire-in-napa-sonoma-yuba/

It’s the worst month possible for a fire to have started in the Golden State. October is the end of California’s dry season and the most vulnerable time for wildfires to spread. The culprit for this particular wildfire is a weather phenomenon called the “Diablo winds” in Northern California, after Mt. Diablo in the eastern Bay Area. (The same phenomenon is called the “Santa Ana winds” in Southern California, after Mt. Santa Ana.)

These winds are created because of high inland pressure, which pushes air down the sides of mountains. The winds warm up and dry out as they travel downward. Late Sunday night (Oct. 8), these winds reached hurricane levels, traveling at 70 mph (110 km/h). The fire started during the peak of the wind event, according to Jan Null, a meteorologist at San Jose State University and formerly with the National Weather Service.

“It’s just about the worst case weather conditions to spread a wildfire quickly, given the fuel,” climate scientist Daniel Swain of the University of California-Los Angeles told the LA Times.


284 posted on 10/09/2017 9:17:33 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Freeper formerly known as bushwon ;))
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To: Freedom56v2

I wonder how a reconfigure C-5 Galaxy would do as a fire fighting plane.


285 posted on 10/09/2017 9:20:04 PM PDT by NCC-1701 ((You have your fear, which might become reality; and you have Godzilla, which IS reality.))
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To: NCC-1701
Tay Austin‏  @Jasamsdestiny Follow More Green Valley you're about to get evacuation orders... Fire 3/4 mile from water treatment plant #napafire #sonomafire #TubbsFire #napafires

Green Valley you're about to get evacuation orders...
Fire 3/4 mile from water treatment plant#napafire #sonomafire #TubbsFire #napafires— Tay Austin (@Jasamsdestiny) October 10, 2017


286 posted on 10/09/2017 9:30:35 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: NCC-1701; dsc

I wonder how a reconfigure C-5 Galaxy would do as a fire fighting plane.


I don’t know, but I did find this:

https://jalopnik.com/colorado-company-will-build-russian-designed-firefighti-1640218561


287 posted on 10/09/2017 9:37:23 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Freeper formerly known as bushwon ;))
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To: Freedom56v2

Thanks.

The devastation and loss of life is heartbreaking.


288 posted on 10/09/2017 9:37:55 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Gene Eric

You are welcome...I could not agree with you more :(


289 posted on 10/09/2017 9:42:03 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Freeper formerly known as bushwon ;))
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To: ClearCase_guy

Really? They said the fires were a result of Global Warming? I always thought it was because of fires being set to the undergrowth that the environmental laws in California won’t let you clear out. You know, to prevent just that very thing.


290 posted on 10/09/2017 9:44:20 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Freedom56v2
Late Sunday night (Oct. 8), these winds reached hurricane levels, traveling at 70 mph (110 km/h).

Yup. Worst possible scenario for a fire to get out of control. Last night, I heard the wind kicking up around my house in South SF and thought "what the heck!" after hot calm weather the last few days. Some deck furniture was tossed around. My daughter living nearby said some of her stuff was tossed around by the freak winds. Later on, I smelled the smoke reaching all the way down the bay. Today I told my wife, only thing we haven't had is an earthquake, and not long after I felt the quake that hit in San Jose today. So far my two sisters in wine country are okay. Feel real bad for the folks who lost their homes and the turmoil it causes in their lives, will take a few years of pain to begin recovering from loss.

291 posted on 10/09/2017 9:45:41 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: editor-surveyor

that’s Davis Double Century country. even in May its hot and dry.


292 posted on 10/09/2017 9:54:50 PM PDT by RitchieAprile
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To: roadcat

Late Sunday night (Oct. 8), these winds reached hurricane levels, traveling at 70 mph (110 km/h).

Yup. Worst possible scenario for a fire to get out of control. Last night, I heard the wind kicking up around my house in South SF and thought “what the heck!” after hot calm weather the last few days. Some deck furniture was tossed around. My daughter living nearby said some of her stuff was tossed around by the freak winds. Later on, I smelled the smoke reaching all the way down the bay. Today I told my wife, only thing we haven’t had is an earthquake, and not long after I felt the quake that hit in San Jose today. So far my two sisters in wine country are okay. Feel real bad for the folks who lost their homes and the turmoil it causes in their lives, will take a few years of pain to begin recovering from loss.


Diablo Winds...appropriate name for them...

Interesting that you felt the winds...my son is near Oakland...wonder if he smelled anything or noted winds...I can’t imagine what it might be like to have a fire bearing down on you...wow...and yes, it will take years to recover from the loss, tho I know the people will begin rebuilding...good conservatives there always do...

So you are the one responsible for the earthquake ;) Just kidding...trying to keep sense of humor thru 2017.

However, I thought small quakes are a good thing—relieve pressure tho maybe 4.3 is not considered small...at least that is what my son thought—small quakes relieve pressure so there is not a big one.

2017 has been quite a year. Stay safe, and my thoughts and prayers for all in those danger zones out there—and there are many according to a map I saw here:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4962146/Wildfires-force-evacuations-Northern-California.html


294 posted on 10/09/2017 10:15:39 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Freeper formerly known as bushwon ;))
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To: Freedom56v2

Isn’t it odd that there are so many separate fires at the same time? Especially after such a wet summer?


295 posted on 10/09/2017 10:29:40 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: dsc

Lots of rain grew lots of tinder.


296 posted on 10/09/2017 10:36:02 PM PDT by Califreak (All Alinsky All The Time)
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To: RockyTx

the majority of people being burnt out of their house,
are also opposed to controlled burns.

no sympathy from me


Well gee Rocky, thanks so much for posting that super supportive comment here on the Breaking News thread...you know a thread sharing information for people who actually care about the people fleeing the fires—you know sort of like the people fleeing Harvey flood waters in Houston...Oh wait, but maybe you think they did not support proper flood water drainage so we should not have any sympathy for them?**(See last paragraph disclaimer).

There are Freepers who actually have friends and family in the evacuated fire zones who lost everything, who they themselves live there and were in danger of losing everything or maybe did, and some here just care about good wine.

And since you don’t live in Sonoma, Santa Rosa, Nappa or any other area of California from your profile which says TX, how did you happen to do a survey before the fire regarding those people’s position regarding controlled burns??? You know the survey you must have done to know this before posting such an insensitive post?

**For all other Freepers, I was trying to show RockyTx how flawed his reasoning is...I certainly don’t think people in Houston deserved floods, etc. like RockyTx feels “people burnt out of their house” deserve no sympathy because he “knows” they “oppose controlled burns.”

Stereotyping that all people in a given area believe the same thing leads to faulty assumptions.


297 posted on 10/09/2017 10:41:05 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Freeper formerly known as bushwon ;))
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To: dsc

Yes it is...

Did you see the map in this article:

30 FIRES?!?!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4962146/Wildfires-force-evacuations-Northern-California.html

This article advanced theory of Diablo Winds...intersting

https://qz.com/1098211/napa-fires-diablo-winds-are-causing-destructive-wildfire-in-napa-sonoma-yuba/


298 posted on 10/09/2017 10:44:17 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Freeper formerly known as bushwon ;))
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To: Freedom56v2
So you are the one responsible for the earthquake ;)

No, it wasn't me, honest! I knocked on wood twice after making the remark of not yet having an earthquake. I was sitting at the dinner table and felt the motion and observed some potted plants swaying. Very mild almost nothing quake. My wife standing at the stove didn't feel it. It was on the Calaveras Fault, near the Hayward Fault. That's what I'm scared of, if the Hayward Fault rips it'll be bad all through the East Bay. I have another sister living in Fremont, that'll get hit bad. I remember her getting married on the day of the Oakland Hills fire that destroyed 3000 homes. That smoke also reached our home, and I saw the flames and smoke while driving to the wedding across the Bay. I'd rather suffer a quake than a big fire, fires scare me.

299 posted on 10/09/2017 10:57:31 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: roadcat

Glad you knocked on wood ;)

Don’t get me going on Hayward quake...son actually lives in Hayward...I did not know about the fault for a couple years...I am from midwest...oh man that fault worries me now that I have read up on it!

He claims his house is on the “better” side of the fault and it has been earthquake-proofed...Is there truly such a thing as a “better side” of a fault??? How does he know just how quake proof house is until it is tested? Hope it is not tested ever...So that is why I hope that the small quakes relieve the pressure.

Oh yeah, fires are scary tho—have to run from them. Son says he would likely have to shelter in place...He has tried to get prepared for such an event...as he thinks he won’t be able to get anywhere on the roads if big quake.


300 posted on 10/09/2017 11:19:40 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Freeper formerly known as bushwon ;))
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