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Big Change in the Las Vegas Shooting Timeline
Ammoland ^ | 9 October, 2017 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 10/09/2017 9:15:53 PM PDT by marktwain

Previously, the reported timeline was the security guard, Jesus Campos, was shot and wounded in the leg, by the Las Vegas mass murderer at about 10:17- 10:19, 10 minutes *after* he started shooting at the

In the revised time-line, authorities are saying Campos was shot and wounded in the leg at 9:59 p.m., as he approached the door of suite 135, on the 32nd floor. *before* the shooting on the crowd started.

There are many changes in possible scenarios that come with this revelation, and many questions.

The security guard is reported as responding to a “door ajar” alarm on another room.  Why was he shot? Sheriff Lombardo says Campos reported the shooting immediately, but the police did not know about it until they discovered him on the 32nd floor, wounded, about 18 minutes later.  From abcnews.go.com:

On Monday, Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo announced a change to the sequence of events that occurred on Oct. 1, saying a security guard who encountered Paddock was actually shot at 9:59 p.m. local time, minutes before the 64-year-old unleashed a hail of gunfire on unsuspecting concertgoers.

Previously, authorities had said that the security guard, Jesus Campos, was shot after Paddock had opened fire on the crowd below.

Lombardo said Campos immediately reported to hotel security that he had been shot. However, responding officers did not know Campos had been shot until they arrived on the 32nd floor and encountered him, Lombardo said.

According to the new time-line, the shooting on the crowd did not happen for another 6+ minutes. That is a long time for no action to be taken on the shooting of a security guard. The mass killer may have panicked at the vision of the security guard. It may have preempted his plans, precipitating

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Nevada
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To: marktwain
The hotel does not appear to have notified the police.

They never do. My uncle was in charge of maintenance for a large hotel. He always told us "if you are staying in a hotel and you smell smoke, call the desk, get an outside line, then call the Fire Dept. directly. If you report it to the desk they'll just send someone like me up to check it out, and you all might be dead by the time the Fire Dept. actually gets there. Their #1 mission is PR damage control, not guest safety."


61 posted on 10/10/2017 7:47:12 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: familyop

The big question is is when exactly the bullets went through the door. At the time the guard was shot or when the cops were there? Also, were the holes going into or coming out of the door?

It’s hard to believe 200 came out and only one found it’s way into the guard’s leg.

What were the cops doing for an hour after the shooter stopped?


62 posted on 10/10/2017 7:51:03 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: 867V309

Want a conspiracy? How about several fires suddenly started all at the same time and bumping Vegas out of the headlines moments after the sheriff changes the timeline?


63 posted on 10/10/2017 7:54:06 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: marktwain

Now we’re hearing from the Sheriff there was also a maintenance man on the floor with the security guard and that’s who Campos “saved.” Where is this maintenance man? Was he the one drilling? Who is he? Is he on staff or what? Before this story wraps up, there will be a dozen folk up there.


64 posted on 10/10/2017 7:59:41 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: marktwain

“Lombardo said Monday that a maintenance worker was also on the 32nd floor at the time Campos was shot, and Campos prevented that man from also being shot or otherwise injured.”

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/09/mandalay-bay-security-guard-was-shot-six-minutes-before-las-vegas-gunman-began-shooting-police-say.html


65 posted on 10/10/2017 8:03:59 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: KC Burke

Well, they might. You never can tell.


66 posted on 10/10/2017 8:22:44 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs, RINOs...same thing)
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To: bgill

Likely, it was just the usual action in Vegas. The Bellagio and Mandalay Bay are over a mile a part; 20-30 minute walk.


67 posted on 10/10/2017 8:24:59 AM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies ('45 will be the best ever)
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To: bert

The suitcase in that pic is loaded with them.


68 posted on 10/10/2017 8:52:23 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: bgill
What were the cops doing for an hour after the shooter stopped?

Calculating how to gain entry with real suspicion the doors/room were boobytrapped. In the 60 Minutes interview, the self-created team (with one SWAT member) said the dire emergency to gain entry was greatly reduced because the shooting had ceased.

69 posted on 10/10/2017 9:18:26 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Tear down the Mexican Carrier plant and use the materials to build the wall)
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To: BlackVeil

Lombardo said Campos immediately reported to hotel security that he had been shot.

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did the hotel call the police immediately? and if your the guard why would you tell hotel security first I think I’d call the police if I had the cell phone.
When the police came to him, he was still there shot. I heard on the police audio scanner when they found him. Strange it says he told the hotel yet no call to the police until the shooter started?
Not that they didn’t call and the police were on their way and in the process of getting there for the security guard the shooting started.

Since this changed, we can’t be sure anymore of anything we’re being told. Why the sheriff ran with this scenario without knowing the facts is beyond me.


70 posted on 10/10/2017 11:36:41 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: marktwain

“This timeline changes things quite a bit.”

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Yes, it actually makes sense now. It never made sense an UNARMED security guard once on the 32nd floor to “check a door alarm” would ever go to investigate a bunch of rapid gun fire from down the hall. It made no sense the security guard checking the shooters door would have caused a man with that much ammunition to stop shooting and kill himself. Of course the guard didn’t stop him from continuing to shoot. Paddock probably saw him coming around the hallway with his cameras, and decided to kill him because he got jumpy, maybe he thought the guard was there to check out his room. After all Paddock just got done drilling the staircase door shut. Maybe he thought someone reported saw him or something. Who knows. We’re asked to figure out the logic and mind of a clearly disturbed man. Regardless of why Paddock did this, he had to be suffering some mental break.
Even those who use religion or politics as an excuse to commit violence are just mental cases underneath it all.


71 posted on 10/10/2017 11:46:30 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: bgill

I think Paddock drilled the staircase door to his hallway shut himself. All the drills and metal and other tools were found in his room around his bags and all over his suite.


72 posted on 10/10/2017 11:58:51 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: ponygirl

Not true, really. The adjoining door has a doorknob lock. You can turn the button in the locked position while open, and then walk out of the room and shut the door behind you leaving it locked. I saw on video the adjoining door and it’s a doorknob lock.


73 posted on 10/10/2017 12:01:32 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: CivilWarBrewing

The officers who first saw Paddock’s dead body said the only wound they saw was what appeared to be a gunshot wound in his mouth with a revolver.
They did not see a chest wound or any other wounds. Saw their 60 min. interview.


74 posted on 10/10/2017 12:03:33 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

“Latest news is that police who later found him were not aware that he was shot.”

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Define “later”.
I heard the full police scanner audio from the time they were called to when the first breached Paddock’s door. I heard an officer radio in that they have a security guard wounded or shot. Now maybe they weren’t aware he was shot for a few minutes, but they definitely called it in before they breached Paddock’s room.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpMrm1xUJ40&t=337s

Skip to 18:40 , but the entire audio is worth a listen.


75 posted on 10/10/2017 12:29:35 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: bgill

When do the guards change shifts?


76 posted on 10/10/2017 12:33:40 PM PDT by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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To: Pollster1

I would expect Paddock, after trying to blow up the fuel storage tank and failing, to have locked the door when he decided to focus on the crowd. If there is a second shooter, this locked interior door is not evidence supporting his existence.
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Agreed. I can see his movement now. To the window with a direct line to the tanks. Once that failed, he ran back to the other room window in the main suite but locked the door behind him and closed it cutting off any possible access to HIM from someone who might come into the other room.


77 posted on 10/10/2017 1:04:33 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: ar10

Maybe they will find out other stuff about Paddock but my best theory is that he was Batsh*t crazy.
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It’s starting to look this way.


78 posted on 10/10/2017 1:18:25 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: marktwain

A security gets shot in the leg, though a door, on the 32nd floor, where there are a lot of whales and vip’s.
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Where are you getting there are a lot of whales and VIPs on the 32nd floor in particular?


79 posted on 10/10/2017 1:21:42 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: marktwain

I do not think we know the murderer fired 200 rounds at Campos.

We are told he fired 200 rounds through the door. Most of those would likely be when the police showed up 18 minutes later.

I do not think he deliberately shot at the avgas tanks.

He only hit them with a couple of rounds. They are big targets.

Just misses from firing at the crowd.
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No, the shooting had stopped by the time the four cops and one swat officer had reached the floor.
He never fired on any cops inside the hotel in the hallway.

Theory on why the tanks only had several shots at them and not hundreds? Because Paddock probably thought if they didn’t blow after a few shots he was either missing them or they weren’t going to blow. To continue to shoot for a few minutes with a hundred rounds at the tanks would have set off the crowd to flee and cops called before he could get to shooting the crowd and getting maximum deaths. Paddock decided to go shoot the crowd and forget the tanks once the first several shots didn’t blow up the tanks.


80 posted on 10/10/2017 1:28:25 PM PDT by snarkytart
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