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MGM Resorts disputes Las Vegas police timeline of mass shooting
Las Vegas Review Journal ^ | October 10th, 2017 | Rachel Crosby

Posted on 10/11/2017 6:31:23 AM PDT by Mariner

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To: caligatrux

“Why is MGM disputing a timeline that actually makes them look better — proactive in the face of a tragedy? And why are they doing it publicly?”

I suspect that MGM sat on the information for too long — failed to notify police in a timely manner.


41 posted on 10/11/2017 8:17:28 AM PDT by Rumierules
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To: Mariner

The video footage should tell everything. This is all about cover up.


42 posted on 10/11/2017 8:20:11 AM PDT by VermithraxPejorative
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To: Rumierules

This is interesting, https://www.today.com/news/las-vegas-hotel-workers-took-cover-hallway-after-gunman-opened-t117342
“Schuck said he radioed for help once the shooting did stop, ran down the hallway and took cover with Campos.

Audio obtained by NBC News also indicated Schuck alerted his superiors that Paddock was firing some 200 rounds within the hotel hallway.”

Schuck was the maintenance worker who first told hotel security to call the police. The link above has a link to the actual audio and you can hear some of the first shots fired in it.


43 posted on 10/11/2017 8:25:16 AM PDT by azkathy (We the people are FED UP-pun intended!)
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To: Rumierules

“failed to notify police in a timely manner”

That is the very crux of the matter.

MGM will be liable for at least $10mil per death and another $2 mil for every injury.

I see a $10 billion lawsuit. Any jury in the US would award it, no matter the state.

MGM is history. All assets will be liquidated.

That is a critical 6 minutes from when Campos was shot and the fire erupted over the crowd. Listening to the police band recordings they did not know the fire was coming from Mandalay Bay 32nd floor until 2217...12 minutes after the fire erupted over the crowd. And after the shooter stopped.


44 posted on 10/11/2017 8:25:48 AM PDT by Mariner (Pink Pussy Hats for the NFL)
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To: Mariner

The assumption is there is 100% effectiveness during which the hotel staff had nothing else to do but act according to plaintiff lawyer’s whims.

The hotel is not liable nor negligent.

However..... swell MGM securities. The Lawyer scum is coming after them


45 posted on 10/11/2017 8:30:14 AM PDT by bert (K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column)
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To: Mariner

This is bigger than MGM and Las Vegas.

Every honest source knows there is more to this than a nutcase.

Following the money?

Paddock was clearly laundering money over long period of time. For who?

That is where the trail begins. The only path to truth.

I’m not here to peddle conspiracy nonsense. But there is background on this that is not yet clear.

Lots of possible players. Las Vegas has a real broad range of criminals. Locals know some of them. Global reach of others is not always clear.


46 posted on 10/11/2017 8:30:18 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: jpsb

“The timeline of events should be one of the easier parts of the investigation to piece together.”

Not when the MGM cannot even confirm when he checked in.


47 posted on 10/11/2017 8:31:28 AM PDT by bunster
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To: azkathy

How are those two guys not shredded after he shot at them down a hallway?


48 posted on 10/11/2017 8:33:29 AM PDT by caligatrux (Rage, rage against the dying of the light.)
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To: Texas Fossil

“Paddock was clearly laundering money over long period of time.”

That is not clear to me.


49 posted on 10/11/2017 8:33:51 AM PDT by Rumierules
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To: caligatrux

“How are those two guys not shredded after he shot at them down a hallway?”

He probably fired through at least a doorway. And he may have fired at where his target used to me and not where it was.


50 posted on 10/11/2017 8:35:50 AM PDT by Rumierules
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To: Rumierules

used to me = used to be


51 posted on 10/11/2017 8:36:34 AM PDT by Rumierules
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At least half the time of the police news conferences were spent in lavish self-praise of the response of law enforcement.

...

As far as I can tell, it’s still believed that it took over an hour for the public union employees to reach the shooter’s room.


52 posted on 10/11/2017 8:38:32 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: Mariner

First of all, the timeline is obviously still not entirely confirmed, so there is no knowing for sure exactly what happened and when.

Secondly, we don’t know what Mandalay told the police and when. Someone could have called 911 and told them detailed information right away, and that information not have gotten out on the public police radio for one reason or another. Alternatively, Mandalay might never have gotten that information to the police and they might have just figured it out themselves.

It’s way too early to start being certain about who is going to be found guilty of what.


53 posted on 10/11/2017 8:41:28 AM PDT by caligatrux (Rage, rage against the dying of the light.)
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To: Rumierules

True, and those hotel hallways are notoriously dark... but still. I mean, it was a hallway after all. No cover, no place to hide, just a straight shooting lane.


54 posted on 10/11/2017 8:42:56 AM PDT by caligatrux (Rage, rage against the dying of the light.)
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To: Rumierules

He was a professional gambler. He was not a card player type, but a machine type.

There is no path to a positive payoff of gambling machines, unless you work for the house.

$100 in = $60-80 back (but clean) at best with machines.

His real estate investments were financed by this cash flow. Wherever it came from.


55 posted on 10/11/2017 8:43:58 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Enterprise

The hotel needs the story to stay with the guard getting shot during the mass shooting. Otherwise, someone is going to question why his calls to his supervisor were ignored or somehow never relayed to 911.

Then there’s the question of the maintenance man the guard called to come see about the blocked stairwell door. Notice, we’ve yet to hear where this alarm for an open door was. The shooter had supposedly screwed the stairwell door shut so that can’t have been the ajar door. Guest room doors don’t have alarms. So, was there really an alarm and if so where?

We’re now hearing the guard called up the maintenance man to fix the stairwell door but we have two versions (at least) of that encounter. Version one - the guard and maintenance man were at the stairwell door discussing the problem with the guard was shot. Version two - the maintenance man was just getting onto the floor and was still down the hallway rounding a corner when the shots rang out and something hit his back and he couldn’t get to the guard.

Somewhere during all this, both men were calling their supervisors.

The maintenance man, at some point, goes down to get the master key from his supervisor to turn off the elevators. DUMB idea. How will the cops get up there with the elevators turned off and the stairwell blocked? And then there’s the fire codes.

Then, when the cops arrive on their flying purple unicorns - hey if the latest version of the story is true, how else could they get up there? Anyway, the cops somehow get there. According to their 60 Minutes interview, one just happens to have a crow bar to get the stairwell door open. But not one mentions the guard who should have been hiding in the stairwell alcove where they’ve hunkered down discussing their options on getting to the shooter. And none mention the maintenance guy who’s running all over the place. Oh, and they don’t mention that the maintenance man (per his words) gave the master key back to his supervisor who then gives it to the cops so they can open the shooter’s door. Ack, but the cops in their 60 Minutes version says they blow the door with explosives.

Are y’all following this or are you more confused than ever? Smoke, mirrors, disinformation and still no autopsy... not that the public consumption version will be anywhere close to the truth.


56 posted on 10/11/2017 8:46:01 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: Moonman62
As far as I can tell, it’s still believed that it took over an hour for the public union employees to reach the shooter’s room.

They did not breach the door until 72 minutes. As I recall, they were on the floor within 20 minutes. By that time, the shooting had stopped.
57 posted on 10/11/2017 8:46:24 AM PDT by caligatrux (Rage, rage against the dying of the light.)
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To: Texas Fossil

So all professional gambling machine players are money launderers? Not buying it.

More likely, just an addict.


58 posted on 10/11/2017 8:48:00 AM PDT by Rumierules
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To: Texas Fossil

Those are all assumptions. It has been reported that he owned at least two apartment buildings in addition to other investments. That could mean he was receiving a steady, sizable income from rental payments. If he was truly a millionaire, he could possibly afford to average a loss at gambling over time. If he was as gifted with numbers as we have been told, he could have been better than the average player, allowing him to keep his losses minimal (at least in comparison to his income or net worth).


59 posted on 10/11/2017 8:50:42 AM PDT by caligatrux (Rage, rage against the dying of the light.)
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We wait.

And watch.


60 posted on 10/11/2017 8:53:14 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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