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To: Mariner
In the narrow matter of when the guard was shot, the changing of the timeline as announced by the police does not mean that the police were lying regarding the original time of the shooting of the guard.

As yet, I'm not sure who gave the information on when the guard was shot to the police. Initially though, in a fluid and confused situation, that's what the police went with. So who would be hurt by the change of the information? The police don't look good for their response time, so changing the information to an earlier time doesn't make them look any better, yet they are still standing by the change. The police have had time now to review tapes and interview the guard. On the other hand, changing the timeline does not make the resort look too good either. But THEY ARE objecting to the different timeline! Do THEY sense some legal liability here? Are THEY hiding something?

17 posted on 10/11/2017 7:02:31 AM PDT by Enterprise (Do away with all symbols of past slavery. Start with the Democrat Party.)
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To: Enterprise

What am I missing here. That guard knows if he was shot before or after the shooting started. Did no one ask him?


21 posted on 10/11/2017 7:07:03 AM PDT by IC Ken
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To: Enterprise

The hotel needs the story to stay with the guard getting shot during the mass shooting. Otherwise, someone is going to question why his calls to his supervisor were ignored or somehow never relayed to 911.

Then there’s the question of the maintenance man the guard called to come see about the blocked stairwell door. Notice, we’ve yet to hear where this alarm for an open door was. The shooter had supposedly screwed the stairwell door shut so that can’t have been the ajar door. Guest room doors don’t have alarms. So, was there really an alarm and if so where?

We’re now hearing the guard called up the maintenance man to fix the stairwell door but we have two versions (at least) of that encounter. Version one - the guard and maintenance man were at the stairwell door discussing the problem with the guard was shot. Version two - the maintenance man was just getting onto the floor and was still down the hallway rounding a corner when the shots rang out and something hit his back and he couldn’t get to the guard.

Somewhere during all this, both men were calling their supervisors.

The maintenance man, at some point, goes down to get the master key from his supervisor to turn off the elevators. DUMB idea. How will the cops get up there with the elevators turned off and the stairwell blocked? And then there’s the fire codes.

Then, when the cops arrive on their flying purple unicorns - hey if the latest version of the story is true, how else could they get up there? Anyway, the cops somehow get there. According to their 60 Minutes interview, one just happens to have a crow bar to get the stairwell door open. But not one mentions the guard who should have been hiding in the stairwell alcove where they’ve hunkered down discussing their options on getting to the shooter. And none mention the maintenance guy who’s running all over the place. Oh, and they don’t mention that the maintenance man (per his words) gave the master key back to his supervisor who then gives it to the cops so they can open the shooter’s door. Ack, but the cops in their 60 Minutes version says they blow the door with explosives.

Are y’all following this or are you more confused than ever? Smoke, mirrors, disinformation and still no autopsy... not that the public consumption version will be anywhere close to the truth.


56 posted on 10/11/2017 8:46:01 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: Enterprise

Hotel said a lot of their time stamps were not synced.


69 posted on 10/11/2017 9:09:16 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Enterprise

The report has been and is that the guard used his radio to report what happened, when he was shot. There should be a time attached to that radio use- I would think. I worked as a security dispatcher 40 years ago and we logged radio use religiously. I think radios now keep track of use on their own too.

The time the shooter began shooting is available from security videos from the venue.

I don’t understand why they can’t figure out if the security guard was shot before or after.


74 posted on 10/11/2017 9:31:18 AM PDT by Tammy8 (Please be a regular supporter of Free Republic !)
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