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1 posted on 10/20/2017 9:32:18 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

This issue, for me, is second only to removing obamacare. The reason is partly principle. That is, it is such raw fascism for the sole purpose of forcing me to support an industry that it offends me every single time I arrive at a gas pump, which is every other day.

It destroys the credibility of the US as a free country. It is repugnant and destroys any faith I have in this country.

Yep. For me it is that bad.


2 posted on 10/20/2017 9:37:38 AM PDT by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm male.)
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When Ethanol was in full swing, corn prices went to $9.00 a bushel, today $2.80....Farmers are going belly up fast.


3 posted on 10/20/2017 9:38:56 AM PDT by mplc51
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Ethanol is the devil.

I have an old Jeep CJ that I drive every day, thirty miles each way, to work.

It’s carbureted, not fuel-injected, and designed to run on 1982 gas...

For the longest time I had had issues with it - Either in stop and go traffic or when I park it for fifteen or twenty minutes to shop for groceries. It runs rough or won’t start without a ton of effort.

I narrowed it down to flooding and blamed the float bowl, the pump, the filter...etc. And did a ton of work trying to sort it out...

I stumbled on the cause accidentally: Heat. The heat of the engine in slow traffic or when it was parked after driving it was causing the fuel to boil in the float bowl and overflow into the manifold - resulting in a flooding condition. Further research led me to understand that Ethanol additives cause the boiling point of gasoline to lower - and this can result in the problems I was experiencing.

Luckily there’s a gas station about a half mile from my house that sells non-Ethanol gas. And after running out the old stuff, it no longer floods - ever. I can run all day in stop-and-go traffic in the worst summer heat Georgia has to offer - no problems. Park and come back out twenty minutes after driving it for an hour - starts right up.

Now - why are gas stations around here starting to offer non-Ethanol gas? Because landscaping, construction, tree removal, and other companies are demanding it. Ethanol additives eat rubber - which means their equipment fails faster.

Ethanol isn’t a viable product - as evidenced by the fact that it required law and regulation to create a market for it...


5 posted on 10/20/2017 9:47:42 AM PDT by DBG8489
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
During his campaign, Trump said that he is on board with every source.

It's something he and Pruitt will discuss. Decisions do not have to come immediately.

8 posted on 10/20/2017 9:49:44 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Multiply the ethanol mandate times 1000 other crony-capitalist political insider skimming operations, and you will have sense of the scale of the problem.


10 posted on 10/20/2017 9:55:51 AM PDT by PGR88
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I can understand not wanting to shock the growers who have been on this train for years.

I wish he’d phase it out over 5-7 years.


21 posted on 10/20/2017 10:13:23 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (CNN IS ISIS.)
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Well... this one price we must pay.

President Trump calculated that the promise to protect the ethanol subsidies had to be made to obtain the support of IOWA and win the presidency, he was right, and he won.

Promises made, promises kept.

I think the above is even more important, I don’t want him to start waffling on all the other promises he made before the election.

If he keeps all his other promises... this is a promise kept I can live with.


29 posted on 10/20/2017 10:53:18 AM PDT by Toughluck_freeper
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Senator Chuck Grassley holds a few important committee memberships and he’s showing willingness to pursue an investigation on the Russian connection to the Clintons under the blind eye of Obama.

He’s a good friend to have in the Senate.


33 posted on 10/20/2017 11:11:34 AM PDT by Fhios (Down with your fascism, up with our fascism.)
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On Bush and corn ethanol...

George Bush has a Rendezvous with Density
35 posted on 10/20/2017 11:18:19 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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No politician has been able to get rid of the ethanol subsidy.


40 posted on 10/20/2017 12:03:34 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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Why stop at biofuel ethanol subsidies? Let’s subsidize domestic whiskey distilleries too. It will help reduce foreign whiskey imports and keep the populace nice and limber at the same time!


48 posted on 10/20/2017 2:50:40 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: BillyBoy; sickoflibs

Ping


52 posted on 10/20/2017 5:49:17 PM PDT by Impy (The democrat party is the enemy of your family and civilization itself, forget that at your peril.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

bump


53 posted on 10/21/2017 4:22:57 AM PDT by foreverfree
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