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Legal Marijuana Is Becoming the Norm
Townhall.com ^ | October 22, 2017 | Steve Chapman

Posted on 10/22/2017 9:47:54 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 10/22/2017 9:47:54 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Yet AG Sessions would rather focus on pot than the prosecution of the crimes of the Obama admin officials, past and present.

What a dimwit.


2 posted on 10/22/2017 9:50:13 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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AG Sessions is just playing to what he believes to be his constituency.

Oddly, though, the constituency has morphed a great deal in the past few months.


3 posted on 10/22/2017 9:54:21 AM PDT by alloysteel (Guilty until proven innocent, while denying defense, justice, mercy or any appeal. No pardon, ever.)
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To: Mariner

I fully expect pot to be legal at the federal level within 10 years.


4 posted on 10/22/2017 9:55:02 AM PDT by Simon Green
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To: Kaslin
The war on drugs has been going on since 1971, and we have a winner: marijuana.

Yeah. That's great. Oh, and also slavery, sex trafficking and chemicals harmful to humans and wildlife.

You potheads have much to be proud of.

Just be carefull you don't accidentally stray onto a marijuana grove. Because you won't stray back out.

Wait a minute. Why am I warning you? I ought to give you a map of all the groves here in Northern California and encourage you to visit them. Unannounced.

No. Forget the map. Just go for a drive here in the Yuba Foothills or up in Siskiyou County. If you come across a road that's been chained off, don't worry about it. Just go around it or get out your bolt cutters and open it back up.

Congrats again on your wonderful victory.

5 posted on 10/22/2017 9:57:16 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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I know there is a strong contingent here, who take the “libertarian” view of marijuana and other drugs. And that view is based on responsible personal use of the drug. Such a view does not take into account abuse of the drug, or abuse of drugs in general. That view seems to be that not only marijuana but all drugs should be legal. That view is that we don’t care that marijuana seems to have bad effects especially on young people, whose minds and bodies are still developing and maturing.

Or to look at another way, that view is that we aren’t supposed to talk about whether marijuana or other drugs have any dangers, just supposed to say that libertarian or state’s rights arguments are the arguments which should prevail.

I’m not sure where I stand, I’m just noting some arguments made. I don’t want people thrown in prison if their only crime is possession of a drug. But also not sure about full blown legalization.


6 posted on 10/22/2017 10:02:00 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Texas Eagle
First of all, I don't smoke pot. But I also do not see where the fedgov has the authority to ban cultivation of a plant.

Just be carefull you don't accidentally stray onto a marijuana grove. Because you won't stray back out.

Funny, that doesn't happen with legal grows, only black market ones made possible by the very war on (some) drugs that you support.

Congrats again on your wonderful victory.

Almost forty years of a failed effort from your side. Over a plant that is less harmful than booze.

7 posted on 10/22/2017 10:05:20 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Texas Eagle

I have correlated rise in 18-30yos weed smoking with the loss/desire of cooking skills. And driving cars. And dulled, boring brains. It’d be different if society were realizing another renaissance out of the ‘freed’ minds, but we’re harvesting flabby, skilless bumps-on-logs couch potatoes.


8 posted on 10/22/2017 10:09:05 AM PDT by txhurl
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To: Texas Eagle

I was going to say that that grtove there in the photo looks like up the road from us. There are a lot of grows around here in Butte County...ilegal grows I might add as the county does allow personal grows! Five acres and you can have a 5 foot by 10 foot plot. Reasonable for personal use. I always joke with the Mrs. that I am going to grow the Devil Weed....but never get around to it. Don’t know where to find the seeds!


9 posted on 10/22/2017 10:11:30 AM PDT by abigkahuna (How can you be at two places at once when you are nowhere at all?)
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To: Kaslin

I think we will see the legalization for a few years, until we relearn the lessons of why marijuana and other mind-altering drugs were made illegal in the first place.

There are components in marijuana that permanently alter the brain. One particularly worrisome effect is that marijuana triggers psychosis; this can make a person violent. This effect is particularly pronounced in young people who use marijuana before their brains are fully developed, at about age 25. Another effect is the well-known lack of motivation. Marijuana users are infamous for not being able to do anything, for being content to sit around and contemplate the world.

In other words, marijuana has qualities that turn citizens into burdens on society.

Despite the propaganda that claims that marijuana is completely safe, the evidence is otherwise. As marijuana is legalized, and there is more interest in conducting research on it, I think the evidence will keep growing within the medical literature on the deleterious effects of marijuana.

The claims that marijuana is some miracle drug that has been suppressed (insert some vague conspiratorial claims about profit here) are not supported by evidence in the medical literature. There is some interest in the potential of cannabidiol as an anti-seizure medication—in fact, one of my researchers has gone through the effort of getting the licenses necessary to research it for that purpose. I am not certain whether that will pan out.

The argument that what drug abusers do to their own bodies does not affect society at large also does not hold water. We end up spending a lot of taxpayer money to try to rehabilitate them, and there is no way our society is going to turn our backs on drug addicts. And that isn’t even counting the criminal acts they commit in order to keep up their habits.


10 posted on 10/22/2017 10:15:52 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: abigkahuna
That terrain does look familiar. If it's not Butte or Yuba or Nevada County, it's a darn good reasonable facsimile thereof.

Those "legal grows" are for show. The real money is in the illegal grows the cartels are spreading all through the Great State of Jefferson.

11 posted on 10/22/2017 10:19:05 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Simon Green
I fully expect pot to be legal at the federal level within 10 years.

I expect use will permitted in the Navy the day after I retire.

12 posted on 10/22/2017 10:20:55 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: txhurl
I have correlated rise in 18-30yos weed smoking with the loss/desire of cooking skills. And driving cars. And dulled, boring brains. It’d be different if society were realizing another renaissance out of the ‘freed’ minds, but we’re harvesting flabby, skilless bumps-on-logs couch potatoes.

That is due to marijuana's effects on the brain. They lose motivation and initiative due to physical changes in the brain. It does not take much use to achieve this effect, and the effect is very long lasting. One study found that people were still affected with that lack of initiative several months after not using, and no indication of whether those qualities would ever return. If the area of the brain responsible for motivation is permanently damaged, then they are going to remain that way. And these were not heavy users, either--I think they used maybe once a week.

I do not think this experiment with legalization is going to end well, I really don't. The only positive I see here is that these people are going to lose any motivation for voting--which will almost certainly harm the Dems much more than the Republicans.

13 posted on 10/22/2017 10:21:04 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: Kaslin
... even though there is no racial difference in usage.

Sorry, I do not believe that statistic. Anecdotally of course, since most blacks in my church group do not toke.

But among blacks I meet in the course of my work, usage seems to be way above 2/3 of the population. Among whites, only that high among college students and recent grads.

14 posted on 10/22/2017 10:23:10 AM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: Kaslin

Is resuming being the norm.


15 posted on 10/22/2017 10:24:36 AM PDT by discostu (Things are in their place, The heavens are secure, The whole thing explodes in my face)
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To: exDemMom

I stopped debating with potheads long ago. Momma always said don’t fight with the retards.


16 posted on 10/22/2017 10:25:33 AM PDT by shelterguy
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One small problem....the possession of even a minute quantity of marijuana is a Federal offense...NATIONWIDE...punishable by up to a year in prison for a first offense,two years for a second offense.

I looked it up.

17 posted on 10/22/2017 10:25:45 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (ObamaCare Works For Those Who Don't.)
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I’m 55. The high school lot heads I knew then, who are still around and have enjoyed their dope since then are the most messed up folks I’ve ever known.
It’s impossible to have a rational, coherent conversation with them. They’re all over the map.

It’s the same with their lives. Incoherent, irrational, all over the map. They’ve lost all sense of etiquette.

It’s sad that this is the kind of society we are turning into.

We are losing our drive for excellence.


18 posted on 10/22/2017 10:33:18 AM PDT by joethedrummer
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What is surprising is not that weed has won, but that it took 50 years. (Disclaimer: I am 63 and have never used it, ever.)


19 posted on 10/22/2017 10:33:41 AM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: Texas Eagle
Congrats again on your wonderful victory.

No kidding. Durango, CO, used to be my favorite vacation spot. Ever since CO legalized drugs, it (along with the entire state) has become inundated with addicts, homeless, aggressive panhandlers......

They even go into motels/hotels and knock on room doors asking for a place to spend the night.

And these idiot stoners on FR think that's a good thing.

20 posted on 10/22/2017 10:33:49 AM PDT by LouAvul (The most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.)
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