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George H.W. Bush Apologizes to Actress After She Claims He Sexually Assaulted Her in 2014
US Magazine ^ | 10/25/2017 | Nicholas Hautman

Posted on 10/25/2017 8:01:06 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: IronJack

I don’t know what wbo means.


61 posted on 10/25/2017 9:32:29 AM PDT by chris37 (Take a week off racist >;-)
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To: Yaelle

The fact that she alleges he did it once, then told her a dirty joke, then did it again tells me that dementia is likely not a factor.


62 posted on 10/25/2017 9:33:30 AM PDT by chris37 (Take a week off racist >;-)
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To: BeadCounter

All I can think of, is that if one is in a wheelchair and someone is next to you getting the picture taken, touching could happen that was inadvertently done.

Just saying that, no one has brought that up, especially if it is with a frail old man. The off-color joke though, leaves some smoke in the situation.


63 posted on 10/25/2017 9:37:43 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: chris37

You would be wrong.

Alzheimer’s patients have no filter. So when they see a pretty girl (or guy for the women) they might well make a comment THEY NEVER WOULD HAVE MADE in the rest of their life. My poor mom will try to hug the pool man three times in a 2 minute conversation. They need to be kept away from people sometimes. Their sex drive sometimes is still there but like a severely mentally challenged adult, they need to be controlled. My mom doesn’t sexually assault but she tries hugging men every chance she can. Just like an overly friendly adult with severe mental challenges. They are now in that category of “not fit to stand trial” and they ont remember any of it 3 minutes later anyway, so they are unable to witness even for themselves.

They are truly no longer responsible for their actions and the “assault” is the fault of the caregiver.


64 posted on 10/25/2017 9:38:45 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: chris37

What is a crime? Patting a woman on the bottom when it’s next to his face? I’m trying to figure out what exactly she is saying was sexual assault. Feminists say whistling or catcalling towards a woman is sexual assault. This actress needs to elaborate.

But really. He is a very elderly man. She is an idiot. I wonder if that is verbal assault.


65 posted on 10/25/2017 9:40:18 AM PDT by petitfour (APPEAL TO HEAVEN)
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To: SeekAndFind

Is this satire????


66 posted on 10/25/2017 9:46:31 AM PDT by Angels27
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To: LeonardFMason

"Any man playing grab ass, 30 days in the hole!"

67 posted on 10/25/2017 9:47:36 AM PDT by Rebelbase (There are only two genders. The rest are mental disorders.)
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To: Rebelbase

How you doin’ boy?
You here for 30 days
Get, get, get, get your long hair cut
And cut out your ways


68 posted on 10/25/2017 9:48:40 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Yaelle
"Alzheimer’s patients have no filter."> ...I was not aware GHB has Alzheimer's....regardless, assaulted is a pretty strong word for what GHB was alleged to have done....Lind and her publicist owe this ex-president and his wife an apology...Lind must be starving for some ink.

I really think the Bush seniors should hang their public appearances up; one on oxygen the other in a wheel chair with a stroke induced paralysis induced grin....privacy is what the Senior Bushes need...IMHO.

69 posted on 10/25/2017 10:12:43 AM PDT by yoe
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To: chris37

“The police can interview him and her and determine if there is a case or not.”

How? What evidence would exist of him briefly touching her bottom, even if it did occur? And what evidence would exist that it was an intentional grope? And in light of the many witnesses around and the highly public setting, what jury would convict him based on her allegations?

The case would need to be proven “beyond a reasonable doubt”. Just how would you do that?

If the Bushes were decent men, they wouldn’t hang out with Bill Clinton. But the idea of a guy in his 90s “sexually assaulting” a woman in a public setting, from a wheelchair, surrounded by witnesses...just how ridiculous does an accusation need to be?

What next...accuse him of flying in an SR71 to Paris to make a deal?


70 posted on 10/25/2017 10:21:47 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: Yaelle

I’m not aware that Alzheimer’s is equivalent to dementia, and I am further not aware that GHWB suffers from either.


71 posted on 10/25/2017 10:21:47 AM PDT by chris37 (Take a week off racist >;-)
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To: petitfour

“What is a crime? Patting a woman on the bottom when it’s next to his face?”

Yes.

“But really. He is a very elderly man. She is an idiot.”

If anyone here is an idiot, it would be you, because you are discussing something that you do not know about apparently.

Look up the definition of sexual assault and educate yourself. Then speak.


72 posted on 10/25/2017 10:23:33 AM PDT by chris37 (Take a week off racist >;-)
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To: Mr Rogers
What evidence would exist of him briefly touching her bottom, even if it did occur?

Well, there's a clip on youtube of him doing as much to another young woman (named) before needing the wheelchair.

73 posted on 10/25/2017 10:24:34 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs, RINOs...same thing)
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To: Mr Rogers

It’s up to the police and a prosecutor to make such a case.

The evidence that exists so far is her allegation of the incident. Further evidence would be his response to it to her and then to police.

Why did he apologize?

You know I can see now why our political class routinely victimizes us.

We allow it.

And then we defend them for doing.

Pitiful.


74 posted on 10/25/2017 10:25:55 AM PDT by chris37 (Take a week off racist >;-)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

“Well, there’s a clip on youtube of him doing as much to another young woman (named) before needing the wheelchair.”

And that would constitute evidence...how? You cannot accuse a man of robbing a bank because he did so once before.


75 posted on 10/25/2017 10:26:58 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: Mr Rogers
You cannot accuse a man of robbing a bank because he did so once before.

You can, if evidence places him in the area at the time of the robbery, and if he admits to it.

It seems they also warned her not to get too close.

76 posted on 10/25/2017 10:34:21 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs, RINOs...same thing)
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To: chris37

Typo. Who.


77 posted on 10/25/2017 10:39:17 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: IronJack

Says the law.

Sexual assault is any type of sexual contact or behavior that occurs without the explicit consent of the recipient. Falling under the definition of sexual assault are sexual activities as forced sexual intercourse, forcible sodomy, child molestation, incest, fondling, and attempted rape.Jun 16, 2017

https://www.justice.gov/ovw/sexual-assault

Sexual assault is a sexual act in which a person is coerced or physically forced to engage against their will, or non-consensual sexual touching of a person.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_assault

How is it that people are on this page arguing this didn’t happen and attacking this woman for making this allegation when they do not even know what sexual assault actually is?


78 posted on 10/25/2017 10:43:55 AM PDT by chris37 (Take a week off racist >;-)
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To: crz
If I were in public life I would simply nod to these tarts when introduced to them and act as cold as I could towards them.

I am not a public figure but I have been doing what you described above for most of my life. I saw too many bat-sh!t crazy girls and women throughout my life and decided that if I had to have any more interaction with women at first than an introduction I would shake their hand and always stay more than three feet away from them.

79 posted on 10/25/2017 10:50:36 AM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: chris37
What if no one ever reports him, because he is GHW Bush, and he’s grown accustomed to getting away with it... just like Weinstein has grown accustomed to it?

You're being absurd in trying to defend your original position. The women on this thread are not defending the attention seeker. There's a reason for that. 41 is harmless at this age and there have never been any allegations of him being improper with women in his entire career. He's not "used to" anything, he's just old.

80 posted on 10/25/2017 11:02:01 AM PDT by CAluvdubya (<---has now left CA for NV, where God/guns have not been outlawed! She's done and he's won!)
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