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To: rightwingintelligentsia

To determine the historical nobility of any particular war, the circumstances and justifications must be looked through a SJW prism of 2017.

Does anyone still think slavery would have survived if the Civil War had never been fought? Was it worth sending 620,000 men to their death to end an abominable practice a little early? It’s a valid question.

Funny how we now have communists on the west coast trying to secede from a union because the states they’re proud to have forced remain in the union 150 years ago elected Trump president.


51 posted on 10/31/2017 1:25:00 PM PDT by MountainWalker
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To: MountainWalker
MountaiWalker: "Does anyone still think slavery would have survived if the Civil War had never been fought?
Was it worth sending 620,000 men to their death to end an abominable practice a little early?
It’s a valid question."

It's impossible to say how long slavery would have survived in the Deep Cotton South, had there been no Civil War.
But we know for certain secessionist leaders in 1861 gave protecting slavery as their main reason for declaring separation.
And as late as early 1865 they still refused to consider compensated emancipation.

So it's impossible to think that generation would ever consider abolition & full citizenship for slaves.
Indeed, their descendants refused to grant full citizenship until forced by Federal government to do so.

So there's nothing to suggest that Deep South slavery was headed for early or peaceful extinction in 1860.

75 posted on 10/31/2017 3:21:28 PM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: MountainWalker
Does anyone still think slavery would have survived if the Civil War had never been fought? Was it worth sending 620,000 men to their death to end an abominable practice a little early? It’s a valid question.

A valid question deserving a valid answer. And to answer that you have to ask the people who launched the war. There is zero doubt that the South seceded motivated by what they saw was a Republican party threat to the expansion of slavery and their power to influence that in Congress. The Confederacy then launched the war for their own purposes. The North was motivated by a desire to preserve the Union in the face of the Southern rebellion and never pursued the war as a means to end slavery. So when you ask if the Civil War was worth it then you need to direct that question to the folks in Richmond and not Washington.

Funny how we now have communists on the west coast trying to secede from a union because the states they’re proud to have forced remain in the union 150 years ago elected Trump president.

Oh please. During the late Obama years and when it looked like Hilary might win this forum was full of talk about how Texas could and should secede. To criticize California for that talk now is very hypocritical.

183 posted on 11/05/2017 5:35:14 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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