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Texas governor voiced 'concern' about Red Cross after Harvey
WacoTrib ^ | 11/1/2017 | PAUL J. WEBER

Posted on 11/02/2017 1:27:06 PM PDT by Elderberry

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott said Wednesday he raised concerns with the American Red Cross following Hurricane Harvey that hundreds of millions of dollars in donations wasn't getting to people who need it.

His comments heaped another powerful voice onto questions surrounding the organization's response to the Category 4 storm that struck Texas in August and left behind what may become the costliest natural disaster cleanup in U.S. history.

Houston Mayor Sylvester Turner and Harris County Judge Ed Emmett have previously discouraged donors from giving to the Red Cross after blaming the organization for problems at emergency shelters. Speaking to reporters from Washington, Abbott said he heard "multiple concerns" at the local level that people weren't seeing aid from the Red Cross as expected.

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To: Dont tread and Live

“charge for donuts offered to GI’s during WWII’

The organization started charging only because the U.S. Secretary of War asked it to. British soldiers had to pay for their snacks, and the free doughnuts for Americans were causing tensions. So the Red Cross complied, after protesting to no avail. It didn’t last long — for most of the last 70 years, Red Cross doughnuts have remained free — but veterans haven’t forgotten.


21 posted on 11/02/2017 2:03:51 PM PDT by Macoozie (Handcuffs and Orange Jumpsuits)
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To: myerson

They hosed me in 1979 when I was a young Airman stationed overseas and was trying to get home on emergency leave. The Red Cross kept trying to block me from getting to go home. Finally my First Sgt and Squadron Commander threatened them and wrote the orders anyway.


22 posted on 11/02/2017 2:11:22 PM PDT by JWNM
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To: Elderberry

I had two uncles in the Battle of the Bulge and they would tell (both are gone now) how the Red Cross would charge the soldiers for coffee and doughnuts when they came off the line.


23 posted on 11/02/2017 2:15:34 PM PDT by arrow107 (The risk of insult is the price of clarity, and it is a price few are willing to pay)
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To: Elderberry
During the Cedar fire in San Diego in 2003 the red cross was slammed by residents for buying computers and other things not related to relief, with the donated relief money.

Our property in Harbison Canyon burned. Churches and the Salvation Army were there with us. We had many private citizens just drive up with donations, food or offers to help. You had to go find the red cross and make an appointment.

24 posted on 11/02/2017 2:17:26 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: Autonomous User

In Houston, the Red Cross money went to four star hotels and room service, while Samaritans Purse and the Salvation Army were living and operating out of tents and trailers.

BTW, both liberals and conservatives in Houston were not impressed by the Red Cross, but spoke highly of the Salvation Army, Samaritans Purse, and the large number of volunteers such as the Cajun Navy who stepped up to the plate.


25 posted on 11/02/2017 2:17:49 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: Vlad The Inhaler
Right after Harvey people were motivated to give. People were giving hard goods to the Red cross for all the people in the shelters.

Then people found out that the Red Cross was throwing their hard good donations into the trash.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrUq_lXi0ME

26 posted on 11/02/2017 2:30:19 PM PDT by Elderberry
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To: Elderberry

Good. The armed Cross is a fraudulent money gathering scheme

Give to Samaritans Purse or JJ Watt or Salvation Army


27 posted on 11/02/2017 2:37:32 PM PDT by Nifster (OI see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Elderberry

Red Cross starts providing relief BEFORE one penny is raised. Things like: pre-positioning trucks, fuel supplies, food, hot meals. There are thousands of local disasters, those that affect folks right in your town that benefit from Red Cross services, for which ZERO is raised.

“Disaster Relief” is a big bucket.
And YES, they can and do accept targeted donations, for existing funds. “US Disaster Relief” or something else. You can’t give money to Red Cross for “John Smith & Family” unless that is for a unique and targeted relief effort. The Smith Family house burns down and local efforts are underway. The Smith Family Fire fund is created and money flows to that for relief efforts.
Targeted donations for major disasters are in bigger fund buckets. So “Hurricane X” or “Flood Y”.

Red Cross has problems, and some public relations issues no doubt.
Top heavy at HQ. Re-alignment of blood services after 911. The whole paying for donuts thing. Red Cross/Red Crescent/Magen David Adom etc . . .
“But the Red Cross is a Christian symbol” (no it isn’t, it’s a Swiss flag cross with even arms, not a crucifix) Israel has a Red “star of david” and Islam has the Red Crescent is response to this issue.

What they DON”T do is raise money for individuals. They provide immediate help so folks can get up and running again. Pay for hotel/motel rooms until more appropriate housing can be found. Clothes to go to work and school, furnishings like beds and dressers. Rental assistance like deposits and first months rent. Most of the help comes through vouchers to be used at local businesses (Helps to energize a local economy by increasing the velocity of the local money supply).
One of the things that lots of folks in disasters really appreciate is a little spending money. $10 for a pack of cigarettes, or a box of tampons, or a birthday cake. They don’t get that from Red Cross. Local Disaster Volunteers often give a few dollars of their own money.

Red Cross works out arrangements in advance with local providers to accept non-cash vouchers from People, to be paid from Red Cross funds. Good faith and lots of tracking on both sides.

Like many things, it’s not all bad. there are some Red Cross Chapters that are terrible. Then, there are some that help put people’s lives back together.

If your local Red Cross is a mess, join and help fix it.
Kick out the old guard and re-invigorate it. Put it on a better path.
It can be done.
I know, we’ve done it.


28 posted on 11/02/2017 2:39:14 PM PDT by Macoozie (Handcuffs and Orange Jumpsuits)
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To: Elderberry

Never thought much of them. Heads are waaaaaay overpaid. And after the cr** they pulled on 9-11....they’ll never get a dime from me.


29 posted on 11/02/2017 2:39:47 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: garyb

Almost every large hospital has a blood bank. Check for it

Red Cross charges people for blood. Also they trash blood if they can’t find immediate use. They won’t freeze. They won’t give to universities for research


30 posted on 11/02/2017 2:39:57 PM PDT by Nifster (OI see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: clintonh8r

My dad had the same sentiments.


31 posted on 11/02/2017 2:40:48 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: clintonh8r

When I heard a WW II vet talk about how Red Cross treated prisoners in Europe I quit dealing with them. That was 1973


32 posted on 11/02/2017 2:41:07 PM PDT by Nifster (OI see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: pfflier

Red Cross Chapters are local.
Local Boards control them.

A bunch are corrupt as sin.
Money Laundering Piss Pots.

San Diego was one of those.

$500K salary for Director.


33 posted on 11/02/2017 2:43:55 PM PDT by Macoozie (Handcuffs and Orange Jumpsuits)
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To: Macoozie

My donations go to the Salvation Army.


34 posted on 11/02/2017 2:47:08 PM PDT by Elderberry
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To: myerson

“Any vet can tell you that the Red Cross sucks. The Salvation Army (”the Sallyann”) is the best.”

Sooth.


35 posted on 11/02/2017 2:50:00 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: Elderberry

When money gets big

People get hurt.


36 posted on 11/02/2017 2:55:01 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: Elderberry

Partner, we quit donating to the Red Cross since our dollars were being spent outside the U.S. for our own relief efforts.

Of course, we did not like them apples at all.

37 posted on 11/02/2017 5:03:34 PM PDT by TheConservativeTejano
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To: onedoug
Samaritan’s Purse is more reputable and trustworthy, IMHO.

Yup, we like them and we like the Salvation Army too.

We get more bang for our dollars when we donate to these two (2) good Samaritan agencies.

38 posted on 11/02/2017 5:06:23 PM PDT by TheConservativeTejano
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To: Elderberry

Samaritan’s Purse, Texas Baptist Men, Salvation Army, et al. are MUCH better organizations than the Red Cross. More money goes where the donors intended it to go!


39 posted on 11/03/2017 12:19:54 AM PDT by TXBlair (We will not forget Benghazi.)
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To: Elderberry

Salvation Army and USO are the two I contribute to. Samaritan’s Purse is another good one.
Never to the Red Cross. Remember the controversy after 9/11? They collected about $1 BILLION but were caught only distributing about $150 million.


40 posted on 11/03/2017 5:33:12 AM PDT by Vinnie
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