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Rural Americans Hurt by New FCC Rule
Townhall.com ^ | November 5, 2017 | Steve Sherman

Posted on 11/05/2017 8:13:50 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin
The swamp has overtaken the FCC and President Trump’s Make America Great Again motto is in jeopardy

With all due respect, who writes this drivel? We had 28 solid, uninterrupted years of globalist, treasonous, America hating presidents prior to President Trump. We had a similarly minded Congress in that time frame, and they worked in concert to sabotage America's future.

Add to that the communists, perverts and reprobates throughout our educational system.

Add to that the commies, fags, perverts and psychos throughout entertainment.

Only a fool would ever think President Trump's objective to salvage America is not in danger.

Is there any sector of America that is sane?

21 posted on 11/05/2017 9:05:01 AM PST by LouAvul (The most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.)
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To: Shady
If I wanted to listen to music industry central that's already available over the internet. What interests me is the local talent, the local preference for music, you know, reality rather than just a feed. They want to kill commercial radio as a medium, sounds like. Take away any distinction and any reason to listen to it and the audience will drift away. That's already happened to far too many small-town weekly newspapers that have been bought up and centralized.
22 posted on 11/05/2017 9:06:08 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: xzins
Putting cable in my area would cost a fortune for the number of customers, so i stopped worrying about that years ago. I use mobile wifi from att. Works like a charm...

Same issue here, same solution, although I'm on Verizon at the moment and it's way more expensive than it needs to be. That's a marketing issue, not a technical one. I'm thinking of jumping ship to AT&T because monthly costs will just about halve, although I'm not certain their service here is up to it. Have to try it to see.

The concern here is that the individual ISPs will be locked out of the 3.5 GHz range by the big guys and it will actually delay implementation in rural areas as a consequence. I haven't looked into it closely enough to offer an intelligent opinion other than that, but I do note that rural ISPs aren't often on the cutting edge of technology deployment anyway, at least not around here. I do think fair market practice ought to allow them a level playing field, but I'm sure there's more to it than that.

23 posted on 11/05/2017 9:06:27 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Nifster

Representatives from Google and Alphabet Access, as well as the Wireless Internet Service Providers Association (WISPA), paid a visit to the office of FCC Commissioner Jessica Rosenworcel on Oct. 5 to emphasize the importance of keeping the 3.5 GHz rules as they are and not changing them for the sole benefit of a “select few large mobile wireless carriers.”

WOW! Google and its pals looking out for us again! What could possibly go wrong!


24 posted on 11/05/2017 9:19:23 AM PST by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR)
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To: dila813

The problem is that you can’t even make a phonecall in some of these areas, much less enjoy a WiFi movie company, or do your college homework. If there is an emergency, and in very rural areas any emergency is likely to be life threatening, you can’t even call for an ambulance because there is ZERO service, or very weak/fading service at best. Line of sight is helpful in flatlands, but not in hilly or mountainous terraines.

While some areas do have some satellite services, they are extremely expensive and very limited in terms of bandwidth and services. For example, you might get some internet service, but no phone calls. Youronthly usage is also very limited.

Often when one calls to have this service installed, one is told there is no room left on the beam so it can take months or even years to acquire service.

Verizon was one of the better WiFi phone services, but they scaled back the power in rural areas so that folks can’t even make a phone call anymore. Then, they increased the cost of their service!

It’s a total pita to have to drive 50 miles to make a phonecall, especially in the winter when snow can be a-hole deep to a short girraff.

And you wonder why beef prices are $15.00/lb or more? Where do you think Western beef is raised till it’s ready to be shipped for slaughter? It’s damned dangerous work. Our family just lost a herding dog when she twisted her leg in a prairiedog hole..had to remove the leg.

Another family member broke his neck when he was butted by a protective cow. The ambulance couldn’t even find him because they don’t know the rural country. He had the same type of fracture as Christopher Reeves did.

Rattlesnake bites are common as are horses flipping over on the rider during the course of work accidents or slipping in mud.

Tractors rolling over people, bailers plucking off limbs and no phone service??? Farming/ranching is very dangerous work so even those costs get picked up by us city dwellers!

Landlines aren’t the answer to phone service in all rural areas, and they don’t do anything for our injured cowboys who have an unusable cell phone in their pockets, or some gal stuck under a tractor.

Rural service is even more necessary than it is in urban areas where businesses with phones flourish, and everything from convenience food joints, bars and libraries offer all kinds of communication services.

In my opinion, rural service is necessary and needed. There’s enough profitargin to bring them up to date with basic services even as they continue to update and improve urban services which truly are in fact, a luxury at this point.

A lot of preventable deaths occur in rural areas and there’s no excuse for it. Not in this day and age.


25 posted on 11/05/2017 9:21:37 AM PST by PrairieLady2
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To: SubMareener

Nicely played


26 posted on 11/05/2017 9:22:04 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Blue House Sue
Then the FCC shouldn't ban small ISP's from providing broadband at the behest of big mobile carriers who want to force everyone onto their networks (if they provide service at all) at monopoly prices.

You're fumbling over your ideology.

27 posted on 11/05/2017 9:26:21 AM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens")
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To: PrairieLady2

what does any of this have to do with increasing the lease from 3 to 10 years? would you invest millions in a lightly populated area with only a 3 year lock on it?


28 posted on 11/05/2017 9:26:40 AM PST by dila813 (Voting for Trump to Punish Trumpets!Goo)
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To: The Great RJ
Should the government tax the latte customers in New York City so that with massive subsidies the residents of Buffalo, SD can have a money losing Starbucks?

Don't give em any ideas! Although this nation has a peculiar way of responding to caffeine taxation. They briefly speculated about it in Wash state a decade ago and almost got the bums rush.

29 posted on 11/05/2017 9:27:39 AM PST by rawcatslyentist (TETELESTI Read em and weep Lucy! Yer times almost up.)
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To: Kaslin

Are Rural Americans still having to climb the Telephone Pole next to their House to make a Phone Call like Oliver and Lisa Douglas had to?


30 posted on 11/05/2017 9:28:38 AM PST by Kickass Conservative ( Democracy, two Wolves and one Sheep deciding what's for Dinner.Does the Government)
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To: Billthedrill
We're in an older neighborhood and don't have cable...use Dish....there are half a dozen options here for the user...nothing much has changed, I don't think we will miss the higher speed....we've never had it.

Is someone trying hard to put POUTS in a bad light?

31 posted on 11/05/2017 9:28:57 AM PST by yoe
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To: SubMareener
Sometimes Google's interests are our interests: Google wanted to roll out fiber Gigabit internet all over the place but were stymied by local politicians bought off by the local cable and other carrier monopolies who wouldn't let them use local telephone poles to string fiber.

We have the best government money can buy.

32 posted on 11/05/2017 9:30:09 AM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens")
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To: The Great RJ

“There are places in South Dakota that are remote, have populations of less than 100 and do not have broadband service. “

So just where does satellite-based broadband fit in? Every night I see ads for HughesNet offering broadband service that is comparable to wireline-delivered products, and their sales pitch is to “rural areas” not served by ground-based systems. Seems to me that just like satellite-based TV serving rural areas, this should not be a problem. The other thing here is the notion that even with all the “real serious problems” with which Trump is having to deal, these people who are “quick to blame” him seem to have the idea that he is “all-knowing” about every little bitch any small group may have that the want government to “fix.” We have become a gaggle of candy a$$ed complainers and ninnys.


33 posted on 11/05/2017 9:31:59 AM PST by vette6387 (LOCK HER UP! COMEY TOO.)
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To: Savage Rider
It is basic economics: carriers have to pay for towers and boosters for their customers, and recoup those charges by the increased contracts from large populations. Barry wanted every service offered to NYC to be offered across the plains of the US, but the carriers had to cover the costs. On top of that they were pressured to offer free services to the "less fortunate" and Net Neutrality laws (proposed) would have prevented large volume customers from paying a premium for faster service. In essence the ghetto rat would get the exact same service as a multi-million dollar corporation, while the carriers would have to cover the costs to provide to every single household no matter how remote.

There is a reason our phones are still on 4G (meaning 4th generation of development) since the Bush administration....no incentive to upgrade.

34 posted on 11/05/2017 9:32:05 AM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
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To: Billthedrill

I went through dial-up and satellite, each an improvement over the other. 4g wifi is light years worth of improvement and nearly as fast as cable. I expect wireless to eventually be faster than hardwire. Just makes sense to me somehow.


35 posted on 11/05/2017 9:34:19 AM PST by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory. L)
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To: Kaslin

If the effing FCC wants to do something for all of us, they could actually shut down the telemarketers that have made our phones next to unusable. As it stands today, our VOIP home phone has a VM advising callers that we don’t answer it because the bulk of the inbound calls are from TM’s and that if they want to reach us, leave a message. And our iPhones have more blocked callers in their phone books than the numbers for people we call. We now see many TM calls that are made on “spoofed numbers” that don’t really exist.


36 posted on 11/05/2017 9:36:05 AM PST by vette6387 (LOCK HER UP! COMEY TOO.)
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To: PrairieLady2

Wow.....How on earth did humans make it this far????


37 posted on 11/05/2017 9:38:04 AM PST by Dandy (Drain the swamp baby!!!)
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To: yoe
Is someone trying hard to put POTUS in a bad light?

It does seem a little hysterical, doesn't it? As someone commented up-thread, it sounds like a lobbyist carrying on.

38 posted on 11/05/2017 9:38:44 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Kaslin

If the effing FCC wants to do something for all of us, they could actually shut down the telemarketers that have made our phones and FAX machines next to unusable. As it stands today, our VOIP home phone has a VM advising callers that we don’t answer it because the bulk of the inbound calls are from TM’s and that if they want to reach us, leave a message. And our iPhones have more blocked callers in their phone books than the numbers for people we call. We now see many TM calls that are made on “spoofed numbers” that don’t really exist.
I followed up on a faxed “vacation offer,” and reached some Chingaso in Cancun who actually told me to “go f*ck myself, saying US telecom laws couldn’t do anything about what he was doing, but that AT&T was providing him with the DID lines he was using to “market” in this country. FCC/ATT, same bucket of crap!


39 posted on 11/05/2017 9:40:21 AM PST by vette6387 (LOCK HER UP! COMEY TOO.)
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To: xzins

Oh, yeah. 4G/LTE is enough for me, and I do some fairly big downloads on occasion. When Verizon switches me back to 3G, though, it sucks.


40 posted on 11/05/2017 9:41:08 AM PST by Billthedrill
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