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Texas church gunman was shot by hero plumber Stephen Willeford...before 100mph car chase (tr)
Evening Standard (UK) ^ | November 6, 2017 | BENEDICT MOORE-BRIDGER David Gardner

Posted on 11/06/2017 4:03:31 AM PST by ETL

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Revealed: how Texas church gunman was shot by hero plumber Stephen Willeford and another passer-by before 100mph car chase

BENEDICT MOORE-BRIDGER David Gardner

Stephen Willeford, 55, grabbed his own rifle and rushed to confront Devin Kelley after being told an attack was underway by his daughter.

As he arrived outside the church he came face-to-face with Kelley.

Mr Willeford, a plumber with no military experience, shot him in the side through a gap in his body armour, forcing the killer to flee.

Mr Willeford and another passing resident, Johnnie Langedorff, then chased him at almost 100 miles per hour in a car as the wounded killer tried to make a getaway after taking a hostage.

Kelley is said to have killed 26 people – including a child aged five – when he stormed into the church on Sunday dressed in black tactical gear and armed with an assault rifle.

Freeman Martin, regional director of the Texas Department of Public Safety, said: “The suspect dropped his rifle, which was a Ruger AR assault-type rifle, and fled from the church. The man then chased the gunman.”

Mr Langedorff said: “He got a little bit of a jump on us. So we were doing about 95 miles per hour, going around traffic and everything.

“He just lost control and that’s whenever I put the vehicle in park. The other gentleman jumped out and had his rifle drawn on him and he didn’t move after that.”

Kelley was found a short distance away in his crashed vehicle, dead from a bullet wound. He had several more guns in his car, but the hostage was unhurt.

Police are still trying to establish whether Kelley died from Mr Willeford’s shot, or if he committed suicide.

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Speaking at a news conference in Japan, Mr Trump said: “Fortunately somebody else had a gun that was shooting in the opposite direction, otherwise it would have been – as bad as it was – it would have been much worse.”

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He [mass murderer Devin Kelley] served in logistics readiness at Holloman Air Force Base in New Mexico, and was jailed for one year in 2012 on two counts alleging assault on his wife Danielle Shields and their child.

In 2014, he was kicked out of the military.

Old school friends described Kelley, who lived in nearby New Braunfels, Texas, as a “creep” who made no secret of his anti-religious views.

Nina Rose Nava, who went to school with Kelley, said: “He was always talking about how people who believe in God were stupid and trying to preach his atheism.’

On Kelley’s Facebook page, he appeared to have a fascination with guns. He had recently shared a photo of an AR-15 style gun with the caption: ‘She’s a bad b***h.”

Kelley’s mother-in-law, Michelle Shields, is understood to be a parishioner at the First Baptist Church and was friends on social media with First Baptist Pastor Frank Pomeroy and his wife.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: armedcitizen; banglist; devinpatrickkelley; heroes; johnnielangedorff; stephenwilleford; texas; txarmedcitizen
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To: ohioman

Here you go. You already know this if you read the thread.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3602093/posts?page=51#51

this post really started the analysis.

Texas does have broader rights for armed citizens than many states. I have seen cases of people going to jail for YEARS when in Texas they would walk free


241 posted on 11/06/2017 12:05:37 PM PST by RummyChick (I have no inside sources, media sources, or federal government employee sources. NONE)
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To: GailA; Azeem
As arthritis set into my hands I couldn’t rack or clean it any more, had to trade in my automatic for a Revolver.

I had the same problem, until a friend recommended this: the Handi-Racker - http://www.handi-racker.com/

It has allowed me to continue using and enjoying my semi-autos.

242 posted on 11/06/2017 12:15:09 PM PST by tarheelswamprat
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To: ETL

My impression was that the reload was at the time Willeford engaged. Hopefully we’ll see.


243 posted on 11/06/2017 12:29:30 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Lurker
It’s Court Martial.

Actually it is "Courts Martial" 🤡

244 posted on 11/06/2017 12:29:31 PM PST by itsahoot (As long as there is money to be divided, there will be division.)
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To: Daniel Ramsey
Hot wax soaked shot rounds, acts like a frangible slug.

Cheap too. Double 00 is not cheap nor are slugs. Lot of YouTube videos show how deadly the waxer rounds are.

245 posted on 11/06/2017 12:38:37 PM PST by itsahoot (As long as there is money to be divided, there will be division.)
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To: RummyChick
Texas and I am just showing one such example.

You are forgetting the ultimate Texas defense; The somebitch needed killing.

246 posted on 11/06/2017 12:42:27 PM PST by itsahoot (As long as there is money to be divided, there will be division.)
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To: lepton
My impression was that the reload was at the time Willeford engaged. Hopefully we’ll see.

Yeah, looks like you're right. Could have sworn I heard or read somewhere that he had reloaded after the chase as well. Guess I was mistaken.

247 posted on 11/06/2017 12:57:38 PM PST by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Nukes. See my FR page)
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To: ETL

Trump: thankfully someone had a gun shooting in the opposite direction. Couldn’t have said it better. That is why I go to church armed. One of the very few. Thankfully last night our pastor said that it was high time that we took security of our church seriously. I brought this up several years ago to our deacons and our then pastor. The pastor blew me off, saying nothing was going to happen. Thankfully now maybe we can set up a security program for Sunday and Wednesdays. I volunteered before to run it, and this Wednesday evening I will once again tell our new pastor that I will run it if they want me too. I pray to GOD in heaven that THIS TIME someone listens.


248 posted on 11/06/2017 12:59:45 PM PST by RetiredArmy (We are in the Last Days of human history. Jesus is coming back, & soon! Do U know Him?)
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To: VRWC For Truth

I took a look at your posting history. All I can say is, seek help.


249 posted on 11/06/2017 1:08:56 PM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Redleg Duke

If he was dishonorably discharged, it was against the law for him to have a gun. Surely the family and friends knew that. Why didn’t they report him when they saw the photo?


250 posted on 11/06/2017 1:11:17 PM PST by Melian (When you are ready to learn, a teacher will appear.)
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To: Elsie

In Texas it’s up to the church whether or not guns are banned as it’s private property and I read that church did in fact ban them and the killer knew that. Matter of fact the NY Post reported today he killed his wifes grandmother in that shooting.

http://nypost.com/2017/11/06/texas-shooter-killed-wifes-grandmother-in-massacre/


251 posted on 11/06/2017 1:54:37 PM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Trump: Greatest POTUS of all time solely for preventing Satan taking office.)
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To: Gen.Blather
I have a bit of a dark thought process some times and I have always thought something like this was bound to happen at some point. At some point the atheist driven hate for Christians would result in an armed attack on a Church. And the results would be blood curdling, as it was here, with the death of a toddler. What I didn't expect is that it would be in Texas, but in some liberal bastion.

But I agree with your point. The left owns this. Just as Obama created an environment where cop killing became a crisis, the left’s hate for Christians that supported Trump could be responsible for this.

253 posted on 11/06/2017 2:25:35 PM PST by Sam Gamgee
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To: VRWC For Truth

BYW, where are HG’s aka Chester the molester, daughters nude pics on FR, inquiring minds want to know? ...


254 posted on 11/06/2017 2:31:12 PM PST by VRWC For Truth ( Freep u, Schmucky)
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To: RummyChick

You know, I used to really admire you, Lady, but you have taken a permanent bend from the swamp. It isn’t even worth trying to debate reality with you.

I hope you can remain safely in the swamp and away from reality.


255 posted on 11/06/2017 2:35:09 PM PST by Redleg Duke (He is leading us in Making America Great Again!)
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To: Spktyr

“Soft body armor is now available that *can* stop some rifle fire without plates, FYI”

Do you have a source of this info? I own Level III AR500 plates but I’d be interested if something was a lot more flexible and covered more. I know there are Polyethylene inserts that are lighter. They are still plates (3 lbs/each) and expensive.


256 posted on 11/06/2017 3:36:05 PM PST by Azeem (There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo.)
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To: jeffersondem
jeffersondem: "That is one for the tally book of every American."

;-)

257 posted on 11/06/2017 5:46:44 PM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: RummyChick

Didn’t find it. Still don’t understand the need for your straw man when this is an obvious case of justifiably shooting someone.


258 posted on 11/06/2017 6:54:53 PM PST by ohioman
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To: Azeem

That would be the Dragon Skin and subsequent developments. Dragon Skin was flexible and would stop lower powered rifle rounds. Unfortunately, it was inconsistent against 7.62 AK and reportedly useless against 7.62x54R. However, it is still in production under different management and I’ve heard a revised version is going into production soon.


259 posted on 11/06/2017 10:20:37 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Azeem

And aside from that, truly soft level III armor is coming - they’ve been making lots of progress with non-Newtonian fluids lately.

http://www.businessinsider.com/air-force-cadet-bullet-stopping-goo-for-body-armor-2017-5

https://www.popsci.com/poland-develops-bulletproof-liquid-armor

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid_Armor


260 posted on 11/06/2017 10:26:27 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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