Posted on 11/13/2017 3:51:48 AM PST by drewh
“The girl, Leigh Corfman, told The Post that Moore introduced himself to her and her mother at the courthouse in Etowah County. Moore was an assistant district attorney at the time.”
The girl. She’s at least 53 years old.
Notice how the paper breaks their own standards to create a psychological impression.
Huzzah!!
Per Wiki:
Goldwater v. Ginzburg
Link to case: https://www.leagle.com/decision/1969738414f2d3241661.xml
The issue arose in 1964 when Fact published the article “The Unconscious of a Conservative: A Special Issue on the Mind of Barry Goldwater”.[3][5] The magazine polled psychiatrists about American Senator Barry Goldwater and whether he was fit to be president.[6][7] The editor, Ralph Ginzburg, was sued for libel in Goldwater v. Ginzburg where Goldwater won $75,000 (approximately $579,000 today) in damages.[3]
Fact Magazine (Fact) was a corporation in New York. The defendant, Ralph Ginzburg, was the editor and publisher of Fact, and Warren Boroson, a co-defendant in this case, was the managing editor of Fact. The plaintiff, Barry Goldwater, was a United States Senator from Arizona and had been a 1964 presidential candidate. The defendants testified that they attended the July 1964 Republican National Convention and were not impressed with Senator Goldwater. Thus, they decided to warn the American people in an issue of their magazine (soon known as the “Goldwater issue”[2] of Fact) immediately after Goldwater’s nomination on July 16th.
The issue at hand was the article published by Fact titled “The Unconscious of a Conservative: A Special Issue on the Mind of Barry Goldwater” in the September-October 1964 issue. The magazine polled psychiatrists and asked if Goldwater was psychologically fit to serve as president.[3] Fact used the information given from the polls in the magazine article against Senator Goldwater. Senator Goldwater sued Fact Magazine, Inc., Ginzburg, and Boroson for “false, scandalous and defamatory statements referring to and concerning [the] plaintiff.” [2]
The court found that the evidence introduced at trial proved the defendants knew they were publishing defamatory statements and “were motivated by actual malice when they published the statements.”[2] The court found the defendants guilty of libel action based on the article Fact published. The plaintiff demanded $1,000,000 in compensatory and punitive damages but Senator Goldwater was awarded $1 in compensatory damages and $75,000 in punitive damages. The compensatory damages were against all defendants but the punitive damages were split between the defendants. Ginzburg and Boroson were liable for $25,000 of the $75,000 and Fact Magazine, Inc. was liable for $50,000. The United States Court of Appeals affirmed the award and the Supreme Court denied a petition for certiorari (review); Justices Black and Justice Douglas joined a dissenting opinion, rather unusual at the time (1970) on orders denying “cert.”[4] Boroson was the only defendant not to file an appeal after receiving the ruling.
Quote from actual case report:
On July 16, immediately following Senator Goldwater’s nomination, Ginzburg and Boroson, desiring, so they testified, to alert the American people to the Ginzburg-Boroson-perceived dangers of a Goldwater presidency, decided to publish the “Goldwater issue” of Fact.1
They agreed that Boroson “would commence to gather research of every scrap of information in the public record that was relevant to a psychobiography of Goldwater,” and that Ginzburg would gather the opinions of psychiatrists across the land by means of a poll and then would write an article on Goldwater for publication in the magazine.
On July 16, 1964, before any research or polling had commenced, Boroson wrote a letter to Mr. Walter Reuther which
[414 F.2d 329]
asked for his comments about Senator Goldwater’s personality and which indicates that appellants had decided to asperse Senator Goldwater’s character on preconceived psychiatric or psychological grounds of their own fabrication. The Boroson letter to Mr. Reuther stated in part as follows:
I’m writing an article for Fact about an old enemy of yours — Barry Goldwater. It’s going to be a psychological profile, and will say, basically, that Goldwater is so belligerent, suspicious, hot-tempered, and rigid because he has deep-seated doubts about his masculinity. * * *
Nevertheless, regardless of how erroneous and offensive the publication, the Senator, because the publication was made while he was seeking a high office, is not permitted to recover defamation damages unless he can indeed prove that the publication, no matter now scurrilous, “was made with `actual malice’ — that is, with knowledge that it was false or with reckless disregard of whether it was false or not.” New York Times Co. v. Sullivan, 376 U.S. 254, 279-280, 84 S.Ct. 710, 726, 11 L.Ed.2d 686 (1964). With this rule of law in mind, a rule necessary to preserve if we are to have a continuing robust approach to matters and men political, we turn to a discussion of the points appellants raise for our consideration and determination.
The “Goldwater issue,” appellants contend, even if it contained falsehoods, was protected speech under the First Amendment, and the interpretive New York Times and related decisions dictate that the court below should have granted appellants’ motion for summary judgment. We do not agree. False statements are protected only if they are honestly made. New York Times Co. v. Sullivan, supra at 278, 84 S.Ct. 710.
The case is well worth the read for anyone interested in this topic that is pertinent to today’s FAKE NEWS.
Better to file the suit than to talk about doing so
He can sue them, but unless he can prove malice or intentional falsehood, it’s hard to win against a journalist. They can say that they believed the alleged victim, and that’s that. He could sue his accusers, but they probably don’t have much money, so he’d have to go after them to recant their story, and for that he’d have to prove that they were actually false. So how do you prove that 40 years ago you didn’t have a 14-year-old strip down to her undies and give you a feel through your briefs? Zero forensic evidence of such an encounter. She is now old enough to know all about men and what their pishy parts secrete, having grown up, so she can’t prove she gained said knowledge from him at age 14. So the best you could do is prove you were not in a car in a long rural driveway halfway between the mailbox and her house on the night in question. He needs an alibi witness.
Thanks drewh.
Just heard on radio that Gloria Allred will be holding a press conference this afternoon with another accuser who will claim that Moore sexually assaulted her, as well.
Discovery. The accuser must come forward and produce proof under oath. She won’t.
Suits against the media never go anywhere since they end up before bought judges.
Malice in law is the intent, without justification excuse or reason, to commit a wrongful act that will result in harm to another. Malice means the wrongful intention and includes all types of intent that law deems to be wrongful. Legally speaking any act done with a wrong intention is done maliciously.
An example of a malicious act would be committing the tort of slander by calling a nondrinker an alcoholic in front of all his or her employees.
The Compost? Motivated by a biased political mens rea?
How could this be? Well, we see their animus here daily.
A lot of people didn’t think the FLOTUS lawsuit had, uhhh, legs. But it did. (And so does she.)
Go get `em, judge. Hit them with a ream of discovery along with your complaint.
“Jones ain’t ahead by no 4% points unless they took the poll in downtown Birmingham on a Friday night crackhead meeting of dimocrat drunks.”
Just how much of the electorate resides in Birmingham and Huntsville? I’m thinking those to be the Dim strongholds.
Moore will easily show Malice,
1. WAPO paid women qnd one worked at the DNC
2. Wapo had no actual evidence
3 Wapo waited 40 years while these political whores said nothing.
4. Wapo published just before the election.
5. that law suit will be in Alabama Courts with Alabama jury
Moore could easily own that paper after a short trial.
Here’s the thing.
I am female.
I have been groped.
And, under more romantic circumstances, I have had advances made.
There is a difference.
I don’t know the entirety of Moore’s story involving these younger women and I’m thinking that 14 year old is lying. Moore was supposedly 32 years old, out of the army, and he was dating women in their late teens.
So?
My father dated my stepmother when he was 34 and she just 19. This sort of thing goes on all the time and frankly, if the females are consenting and of age, good or wise romantic actions is not for the public to decide.
That sexual instant that this alleged 14 year old describes, folks, it just does not sound like a groping incident. It sounds to me like a date’s end, an attempt to get in the female’s pants....happens all the time. Sometimes the females willing let the men in.
I do NOT believe that female was 14....I’m hearing she was really 17, age of consent. And if Moore groped and attacked her, a grope is a grope, it is a clumsy, sometimes painful pull at private places.
Anyway, if the public suddenly decides that based on accusations over 40 years old we’re going to pull the guy out of office...well it will happen in the future, always.
For somebody will find someone to declare some kind of prior harassment and this is the standard?
This is the GOP E trying to throw Moore out of there.
Thanks. I printed the case and read it.
The difficulty in her case was proving intent to malice.
That's the difficulty in all these cases when dealing with a public figure.
The media refused to cover Luther’s past problems with his alleged mistress, but I posted as much as possible about it.
We called women like her LIARS and TRAMPS!
I wouldn’t be surprised either.
Pastor’s Letter
Dear friends and fellow Alabamians,
For decades, Roy Moore has been an immovable rock in the culture wars – a bold defender of the “little guy,” a just judge to those who came before his court, a warrior for the unborn child, defender of the sanctity of marriage, and a champion for religious liberty. Judge Moore has stood in the gap for us, taken the brunt of the attack, and has done so with a rare, unconquerable resolve.
As a consequence of his unwavering faith in God and his immovable convictions for Biblical principles, he was ousted as Chief Justice in 2003. As a result, he continued his life pursuit by starting the Foundation for Moral Law, which litigates religious liberty cases around our Nation. After being re-elected again to Chief Justice in 2012, by an overwhelming majority, he took another round of persecution for our faith as he stood up for the sanctity of marriage between one man and one woman.
You can know a man by his enemies, and he’s made plenty – from the radical organizations such as the Southern Poverty Law Center and the ACLU to the liberal media and a handful of establishment politicians from Washington. He has friends too, a lot of them. They live all across this great State, work hard all week, and fill our pews on Sunday. They know him as a father, a grandfather, a man who loves God’s Word and knows much of it by heart, a man who cares for the people, a man who understands our Constitution in the tradition of our Founding Fathers, and a man who deeply loves America. It’s no wonder the Washington establishment has declared all-out war on his campaign.
We are ready to join the fight and send a bold message to Washington: dishonesty, fear of man, and immorality are an affront to our convictions and our Savior and we won’t put up with it any longer. We urge you to join us at the polls to cast your vote for Roy Moore.
In your service,
Dr. Tom Ford, III, Pastor, Grace Baptist Church, Montgomery, Alabama
Pastor Stan Cooke, Kimberly Church of God, Kimberly, Alabama
Pastor Jonathan Rodgers, Dothan, Alabama
Pastor Joseph Smith, Pine Air Baptist Church, Grand Bay Alabama
Dr. David E. Gonnella, Pastor, Theodore, Alabama
Pastor Mike Allison, Madison, Alabama
Dr. Terry Batton, Christian Renewal and Development Ministries, Eufaula, Alabama
Pastors Tim and Elizabeth Hanson, Smiths Station, Alabama
Pastor Mark Liddle, Dominion Baptist Church, Birmingham, Alabama
Pastor Steve Sanders, Victory Baptist Church, Millbrook, Alabama
Dr. Richard Fox, retired Baptist pastor
Dr. Randy Cooper, Pastor, Warrior, Alabama
William Green, Minister, Fresh Anointing House of Worship, Montgomery, Alabama
Maurice McCaney, Victory Christian Fellowship Church, Florence, Alabama
Pastor Jamie Holcomb, Young’s Chapel, Piedmont, Alabama
Pastor Paul Elliott, Young’s Chapel, Piedmont, Alabama
Pastor Rodney Gilmore, Covenant Christian, Gadsden, Alabama
Pastor Mark Gidley, Faith Worship Center, Gadsden, Alabama
Pastor Bill Snow, Edgewood Church, Anniston, Alabama
Pastor Michael Yates, Webster’s Chapel, Gadsden, Alabama
Pastor Mark Holden, Webster’s Chapel, Gadsden, Alabama
Pastor Joshua Copeland, Pleasant Ridge Baptist Church, Anniston, Alabama
Pastor Bruce Jenkins, Young’s Chapel, Piedmont, Alabama
Pastor Keith Bond, Young’s Chapel, Piedmont, Alabama
Pastor Jim Lester, Fannin Road Baptist Church, Montgomery, Alabama
Pastor Thad Endicott, Heritage Baptist Church, Opelika, Alabama
Bishop Fred and Tijuanna Adetunji, Fresh Anointing House of Worship, Montgomery, Alabama
Pastor David Floyd, Marvyn Parkway Baptist Church, Opelika, Alabama
Pastor Bruce Word, Freedom Church, Gadsden, Alabama
Pastor Paul Hubbard, Lakeview Baptist Church, Montgomery, Alabama
Rev. Carl Head, Lakeview Baptist Church, Montgomery, Alabama
Pastor Duwayne Bridges, Jr., Fairfax First Christian Church, Valley, Alabama
Rev. Edwin Roberts, Adams Street Church of Christ, Enterprise, Alabama
Pastor John McCrummen, Open Door Baptist Church, Enterprise, Alabama
Rev. Mickey Counts, Open Door Baptist Church, Enterprise, Alabama
Rev. Alex Pagen, Open Door Baptist Church, Enterprise, Alabama
Pastor Glenn Brock, Eufaula, Alabama
Rev. Tim Head, Montgomery, Alabama
Pastor/Elder Ted Phillips, Christ Church, Odenville, Alabama
Tim Yarbrough, Elder, Trinity Free Presbyterian, Trinity, Alabama
Pastor Myron Mooney, Trinity Free Presbyterian, Trinity, Alabama
Jerry Frank, Elder, Trinity Free Presbyterian, Trinity, Alabama
Pastor Jim Nelson, Church of the Living God, Moulton, Alabama
Pastor Earl Wise, Millbrook, Alabama
Rick and Beverly Simpson, Summit Holiness Church, Alabama
Pastor Lane Simmons and Margie Dale Simmons, First Assembly of God, Greenville Alabama
Rev. Charles Morris, Pastor Grace Way Fellowship, Evergreen Alabama
Dr. George Grant, Pastor, Parish Presbyterian Church
Pastor David Whitney, Cornerstone Church
Dr. Peter and Roseann Waldron, St. Francis Anglican Church
Pastor Franklin and Mrs. Pamela Raddish, Capitol Hill Independent Baptist Ministries
Dr. Michael Peroutka, Institute on the Constitution
Reverend Bill Owens, Coalition of African American Pastors
**Church names are listed for identification purposes only
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