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Rush Limbaugh is Wrong – Alabama is Not McConnell -vs- Bannon, It’s Bigger…
The Last Refuge ^
| November 14, 2017
| sundance
Posted on 11/14/2017 10:14:46 PM PST by Bratch
CTH has attempted to stay away from talking about the Alabama ‘clown show‘, all of it, since we made our position clear long before the primary run-off race. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes etc.
My concern with the Alabama mess was a very simple MAGA issue: riding horses to polling stations does not establish a connection to the man or woman who hit the necessary alarm clock at 5:15am to pay the bills. Those are MAGA people. That’s the essence of the Trump coalition.
The MAGA coalition I know has never been predisposed to racism, sexism, nativism, or any other kind of “ism” or “ist”, because we’ve never been not busy. It takes time to give a rats-ass about bathroom police, social justice etc. Time and energy for that, who has it?
The current position of the epic fiasco was/is entirely predictable…. warnings, deaf ears, blah-blah-blah; water under the bridge. That said, the current race to the exits by all of the fly-by-nights (populist wallflowers) is embarrassing to see play out.
Factually, I feel sorry for Mr. and Mrs. Roy Moore… However, I don’t have a smidgen of sympathy for the noob-right financial opportunists: Steve Bannon, Laura Ingraham, Sebastian Gorka et al, or the political Roberts-The-Bruce: Ted Cruz, Mike Lee etc. Heck, I’m still waiting for the ‘Use El Chappo Money to Build The Wall‘ bill… I digress.
So why engage now? Well, today Rush Limbaugh weighs in in using the customary (passive aggressive/mamet principle) approach to frame the argument as: “The Roy Moore Soap Opera is Really About McConnell -vs- Bannon”. No, no it’s not.
I understand the frame of reference, why Limbaugh views it that way, but that’s not an accurate assessment.
The UniParty is against Roy Moore, not just simply Mitch McConnell and the professional political apparatus within the GOP elitist class. Things are not what they were in 2014.
In 2014 such a Limbaugh framework would be accurate (though the GOPe cat had his tongue back then). Indeed, during the 2014 Thad Cochran -vs- Chris McDaniel race the current perspective of Limbaugh would have been accurate. But that was then, this is now 2017.
In 2014 there were billions worth of personal and party indulgences at stake; in 2017 there are trillions of UniParty indulgences at stake.
In 2014 Mitch McConnell was trying to use Thad Cochran to defeat the Tea party. In 2017 the entire apparatus of the DC system is trying to use Alabama to defeat the existential risk that is Donald Trump.
If ‘political strategist’ Steve Bannon, or ‘political thinker’ Rush Limbaugh, were half as smart as they say they are, they’d chip in buy a vowel, get a clue and see that.
This is no longer small enough for individual personalities, this is a much bigger zero-sum outcome battle albeit with useful side-benefits in smacking Bannon’s ego down to size etc. Which, in all honesty, speaking as a person on the same side while watching the idiots on our team giving the enemy ammunition, would not be a bad thing – AT ALL.
Domestic DC battles are to billions what multinational UniParty battles are to trillions. Alabama is bigger than McConnell or Bannon. Alabama is now as much about NAFTA, China, renegotiated trade deals, geopolitical alliances and Saudi Arabia, and the trillions swirling around via multinational corporate interests.
The swamp is engaged, self-aware and the deep-state part is self actuated now. Instructions are no longer needed. Each cell can operate independently to protect itself from any confrontation. Thus the arguments are bigger; every angle is weighed as does it improve position, or does it weaken position… way-points are transparent. Globalists don’t need to give direction in feet or inches, the battle is much bigger, more broad – the decisions are about “generalized direction”.
Example: NAFTA Round #5 (Mexico) begins this week: “lest trade disputes create friction with NAFTA-supporting Republican lawmakers.”
Example: “Republicans” control all senate hearings:
Example: Remember when the Senate voted unanimously to block President Trump from making recess appointments? That rule required “unanimity”, a single Republican senator could block the Senate from handcuffing President Trump. Not a single Republican broke ranks.
The professional political class in DC, the UniParty, is not confronting Steve Bannon though he’d probably like to make money off that outlook. The united political apparatus is confronting something far more consequential than the annoyance that Bannon represents; they are confronting the framework of ‘America First’.
That bigger dynamic is what’s adverse to their interests. Bannon is an annoying gnat.
When you accept that difference you are then prepared to ask yourself the question(s):
♦What would/will the professional apparatus do to protect their interests?
♦How far are they willing to go to oppose anything that appears adverse to those interests?
“Christmas Yearbooks”?
Written in two sets of handwriting?
Using two different inks?
Uh huh.
Go read about a republican operative named Harvey Leroy “Lee” Atwater, and how he trained a young protege’ named Karl Christian Rove in political warfare against other republicans.
Remember, from the Uniparty’s perspective they have nothing to lose in Alabama by getting caught making crap up. They were going to lose the race anyway…. so why not pull out the black arts. It’s simply how they roll.
ps. Friends in Alabama, you must fight like an insurgency.
TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: alabama; blackink; blueink; maga; moore; roymoore; uniparty
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To: mad_as_he$$
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There isn’t one.
But there is one that is not in color, where it was copied in gray scale.
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posted on
11/15/2017 3:32:26 PM PST
by
editor-surveyor
(Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
To: editor-surveyor
Humm, needs further analysis by an expert. Even if it is a camera glitch it is an odd one.
To: mad_as_he$$
.
Camera glitch ????
Of what sort?
Doesn’t make sense.
.
63
posted on
11/15/2017 3:51:20 PM PST
by
editor-surveyor
(Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
To: cradle of freedom
In what context are you saying this?
64
posted on
11/15/2017 4:40:26 PM PST
by
jobim
To: Electric Graffiti
LMFAO...
Your FA? What about HIS FA?
65
posted on
11/15/2017 6:47:25 PM PST
by
gnickgnack2
( Another bad day for Trump, he only got seven major things accomplished .)
To: editor-surveyor
Lens flare or delamination of optical components. That said without access to the original who knows.
To: mad_as_he$$
I have you seen one where the ink is the same color?
You mean the one that CNN fudged with?
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posted on
11/16/2017 6:01:33 AM PST
by
SoConPubbie
(Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
To: mad_as_he$$
.
Nah!
Just standard Glo All-Red fraud.
68
posted on
11/16/2017 9:49:20 AM PST
by
editor-surveyor
(Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
To: cradle of freedom
He avoids talking about the New World Order. One time a man called in to speak about the NWO and he steered him away from it. If he really got into the NWO, Builderbergers, CFR etc. he wouldn’t have any advertisers.
To: SoConPubbie; SunkenCiv
There are two colors of ink in the pic SunkenCiv posted.
Plus there’s the ‘DA’ appended to ‘Moore’, exactly how it appeared on Deborah Gibson’s 1999 divorce decree, when Judge Moore’s secretary Delbra Adams initialed the signature stamp that she used on the papers.
Gibson screwed up and included the DA when she copied Moore’s signature from her divorce papers onto her yearbook. That’s why the forgery is obvious.
70
posted on
11/18/2017 9:34:57 PM PST
by
Pelham
To: cynwoody
Check out this little fact from
TheCipher Interesting revelation about the signature in the yearbook and where it probably came from.
Turns out Moore was the judge who ruled against Nelson in her divorce case and the signature is exactly how it was on his ruling - explains the D.A. ( which Nelson has ).
Nelson also said she never had contact with him since the "incident"and failed to mention he was the judge in her divorce case.Roy Moore Attorney Demands Gloria Allred Release Original Yearbook, Contends its a Fraud
" ... "D.A." (District Attorney) initials after Moores signature, was recognized by Moore as the initials that his then-assistant, Deborah Adams , used to sign documents. ... "
From
"TigerClaws" :
" ... But (exhibit 2) click on the image in the link.
You can clearly see two different color ink pens were used.
https://mobile.twitter.com/CNN/status/930205088299257859
Here's that image and a link to its ORIGINAL source :
And heres one more source:
Live Stream: Moore Campaign Holding Press Conference
Furthermore, after Moore's signature are the initials "D.A.," which Nelson and her attorney say represented were written by Moore because he was district attorney at the time.
But Moore was an assistant district attorney, Jauregui said,
And Moore can't recall ever signing his name with the letters "D.A." after it.
But he had seen it before, Jauregui said, when he was on the bench.
His assistant stamped his signature on papers and then put "D.A." on them, Jauregui said.
That's exactly how the signature appears on the divorce decree that Moore signed, he added.
That's the THIRD Spelling of his assistant.
WHICH ONE IS CORRECT ?
Check out this little fact from
TheCipher Interesting revelation about the signature in the yearbook and where it probably came from.
Turns out Moore was the judge who ruled against Nelson in her divorce case and the signature is exactly how it was on his ruling - explains the D.A. ( which Nelson has ).
Nelson also said she never had contact with him since the "incident"and failed to mention he was the judge in her divorce case.Roy Moore Attorney Demands Gloria Allred Release Original Yearbook, Contends its a Fraud
" ... "D.A." (District Attorney) initials after Moores signature, was recognized by Moore as the initials that his then-assistant, Deborah Adams , used to sign documents. ... "
Heres one more source:
And heres a link to a DIFFERENT SPELLING of that name:
Roy Moore Campaign to Gloria Allred: Release the Evidence to Determine Whether There is Fraud
"
Judge Moore says he cant remember ever signing his name with DA after it.
But he had seen it before.
You know where he had seen it ?
When he was on the bench, his assistant whose initials are capital D. A. Delbra Adams would stamp his signature on a document and put capital D. A.
Thats exactly how this signature appears on the divorce decree that Judge Moore signed dismissing the divorce action of Beverly Nelson.
"
The more I search those different spellings of the assistant's name, the more I'm inclined to believe it was
Delbra Adams.
I get results for a
Court Specialist at State of Alabama Circuit Clerk's Office Cherokee County.
I also get results as a
certified public notary located in Sand Rock, AL.
And ... I get results for
Delbra Adams in Leesburg , AL. with a lot of A.K.A.s
Debra L Adams, Delbra M Adams, Debbie Adams, Debra Ly Adams, Delbra L Adams, Debble Adams, Debra Adams, Delbra Lynn Adams, Delbra L Admas
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posted on
11/18/2017 9:36:42 PM PST
by
Yosemitest
(It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
To: FourtySeven
"To be clear, my question is: does there exist a photo that doesnt appear to show two different ink colors. If so, where is it?"
Give 'em time and they'll
"create" one.
As for the "D.A." issue, check out this little fact from
TheCipher Interesting revelation about the signature in the yearbook and where it probably came from.
Turns out Moore was the judge who ruled against Nelson in her divorce case and the signature is exactly how it was on his ruling - explains the D.A. ( which Nelson has ).
Nelson also said she never had contact with him since the "incident"and failed to mention he was the judge in her divorce case.Roy Moore Attorney Demands Gloria Allred Release Original Yearbook, Contends its a Fraud
" ... "D.A." (District Attorney) initials after Moores signature, was recognized by Moore as the initials that his then-assistant, Deborah Adams , used to sign documents. ... "
From
"TigerClaws" :
" ... But (exhibit 2) click on the image in the link.
You can clearly see two different color ink pens were used.
https://mobile.twitter.com/CNN/status/930205088299257859
Here's that image and a link to its ORIGINAL source :
And heres one more source:
Live Stream: Moore Campaign Holding Press Conference
Furthermore, after Moore's signature are the initials "D.A.," which Nelson and her attorney say represented were written by Moore because he was district attorney at the time.
But Moore was an assistant district attorney, Jauregui said,
And Moore can't recall ever signing his name with the letters "D.A." after it.
But he had seen it before, Jauregui said, when he was on the bench.
His assistant stamped his signature on papers and then put "D.A." on them, Jauregui said.
That's exactly how the signature appears on the divorce decree that Moore signed, he added.
That's the THIRD Spelling of his assistant.
WHICH ONE IS CORRECT ?
Check out this little fact from
TheCipher Interesting revelation about the signature in the yearbook and where it probably came from.
Turns out Moore was the judge who ruled against Nelson in her divorce case and the signature is exactly how it was on his ruling - explains the D.A. ( which Nelson has ).
Nelson also said she never had contact with him since the "incident"and failed to mention he was the judge in her divorce case.Roy Moore Attorney Demands Gloria Allred Release Original Yearbook, Contends its a Fraud
" ... "D.A." (District Attorney) initials after Moores signature, was recognized by Moore as the initials that his then-assistant, Deborah Adams , used to sign documents. ... "
Heres one more source:
And heres a link to a DIFFERENT SPELLING of that name:
Roy Moore Campaign to Gloria Allred: Release the Evidence to Determine Whether There is Fraud
"
Judge Moore says he cant remember ever signing his name with DA after it.
But he had seen it before.
You know where he had seen it ?
When he was on the bench, his assistant whose initials are capital D. A. Delbra Adams would stamp his signature on a document and put capital D. A.
Thats exactly how this signature appears on the divorce decree that Judge Moore signed dismissing the divorce action of Beverly Nelson.
"
The more I search those different spellings of the assistant's name, the more I'm inclined to believe it was
Delbra Adams.
I get results for a
Court Specialist at State of Alabama Circuit Clerk's Office Cherokee County.
I also get results as a
certified public notary located in Sand Rock, AL.
And ... I get results for
Delbra Adams in Leesburg , AL. with a lot of A.K.A.s
Debra L Adams, Delbra M Adams, Debbie Adams, Debra Ly Adams, Delbra L Adams, Debble Adams, Debra Adams, Delbra Lynn Adams, Delbra L Admas
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posted on
11/18/2017 9:42:27 PM PST
by
Yosemitest
(It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
To: cradle of freedom
Guess again !
Here's an excerpt from Rush Limbaugh's Radio Show:
The Swamp Demands Conformity
Nov 15, 2017
...
RUSH: Heres Mark in Port Townsend wheres Port Townsend ?
Port Townsend what?
CALLER: Thats a little bit west of Seattle.
RUSH: In Washington.
Okay. Great to have you with us.
How you doing, sir ?
CALLER: Im doing great, sir.
I hope youre doing well yourself.
RUSH: I am under siege today, Mark.
Im under siege.
The Drive-By Media is after me because I dared to point out that Roy Moore used to be a Democrat.
CALLER: Thats why you get paid the big bucks.
Im envious of you.
RUSH: (laughing).
CALLER: So the comment I wanted to make was that as a retired law enforcement officer, Jeff Sessions Im speaking as a retired law enforcement officer
Jeff Sessions says he doesnt see any reason to doubt these girls word.
Well, I see a really good reason.
None of these girls have been put under oath and made a sworn statement under penalty of perjury.
And Gloria Allred should be able to tell you that is the first thing you do when you get a client,
you depose them and you get their statement on the record,
and then you go from there.
And if theyre not willing to make a sworn statement, that sounds really fishy to me.
RUSH: I take it you dont believe the women
or you just dont have enough information yet to make a determination ?
CALLER: You dont have enough information to make a determination,
but speaking as an ex-cop, I find it fishy that nobody has made a sworn statement.
And about that yearbook thing,you know, when I was in uniform at a certain time of year
youd get kids walking up to you all the time wanting you to sign their yearbook.Hey, Officer Mark, sign my yearbook.
And I was only a cop.
Can you imagine how politicians get kids wanting doesnt mean you remember all of them.
RUSH: Hang on.
On the yearbook stuff, folks, for those of you who may not be up to speed on this and I doubt there are very many of you
there are allegations that some of these autographs in yearbooks are forged.
There are conservative blog sites claiming to have evidence by virtue of side-by-side comparison
that somebody other than Judge Moore signed some of these things.
This is the first Ive mentioned that.
Im just reacting to you bringing up the yearbooks.
Youre upset with Jeff Sessions.
Hes the attorney general, and he is going ahead and acknowledging thathe believes witnesses before anybodys been put under oath,
and you think thats a little unprofessional, right ?
CALLER: It sounds to me like hes just trying to tread carefully.
RUSH: Well, look, this is politics.
It has its own court, and its not a court of law.
CALLER: But these girls are making public statements
RUSH: They are women.
They are women.
CALLER: Okay, theyre making public statements impugning somebodys honor.
And somebody with responsibility needs to explain to them,if youre gonna besmirch somebody, you gotta put it on the record.
RUSH: No, you dont.
Only in court.
And this is not in court.
This is in politics.
CALLER: I understand its politics,
but Gloria Allred should know what the law is.
RUSH: Im sure she does.
Thats why shes not in court and is instead on TV.
CALLER: I just want to make that point, Rush.
Thank you.
RUSH: Im glad you called, Mark.
Folks, I have to tell you,Im having a little fun with this.
No, dont misunderstand here,
but hes exactly right, but of course that doesnt theres a whole different inertia and movement now that is taking place in the world of politics,
and there is no room for doubt.
I mean,the guy did it, you dont disbelieve the women.
I mean, thats something you must subscribe to now.The women dont lie,except if youre Juanita Broaddrick,
then of course
thats the point.
BREAK TRANSCRIPT
RUSH: I was having fun with the caller and his obvious consternationby confusing what happens in politics with what happens in the law,which is ironic,
because the laws are written by these people.
But what happens thereapparently the law doesnt matter first and foremost.
Find it funny.
BREAK TRANSCRIPT
RUSH: Steve in Rochester, Minnesota.
Great to have you with us, sir.
How are you ?
CALLER: Hey, good.
Thanks, Rush. Dittos.
Ive been listening since 1991.
So I was reading through a Fox News story on the various senators,Republican senators and their comments about this whole situation,
and I read read em one after another; there were many.
And I was thinking as I got most of the way through it,this sounds a lot like your media montages, vis-a-vis gravitas,
that I often hear on your show.
The similarities were striking in what they said.
And it was an observation that led me to think thatthis is really a coordinated attack.
And I think that should be the focus, not the he said, she said,
but the fact thatthis guys being attacked by the establishment, big time.
RUSH: Let me put it to you another way in the form of a question.
Interesting observation, by the way, that you,in reading and listening to all of the different people opposing Judge Moore,
theyre all saying the same thing, is that your point ?
Just like when Cheney was mentioned as the potential vice presidential nominee for George W. Bush,
about 85 media people all said,Thats gravitas.
This is to provide gravitas.
They all had that word.
You think the same things happening here with the response to Judge Moore ?
CALLER: Yes.
Exactly.
RUSH: Okay.
So do you think let me just ask you point-blank
do you think that, whether he did it or not, hes being railroaded ?
CALLER: Yes.
RUSH: Interesting.
CALLER: Yep. I think this is a coordinated attack,
and what spurred me to think thiswas your comments yesterday about Mitch McConnell attacking Bannons choice.
And I thoughthow else could you do this ?
Here we are a month away from the election.
RUSH: Let me tell you something.
I dont think theres any doubt here.
When Bannon went public and said thatJudge Moore was the first of many candidates theyre gonna support
in order to oust the Republican leadership,
I dont think theres any question here that McConnells reacting to that.
Let me just ask you this.Have any of you ever,
do you ever remember Mitch McConnell or the Republican leadership ever going after a Democrat
the way theyre going after (interruption)
You dont remember.
You dont remember McConnell ever going after a Democrat the way theyre going after
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posted on
11/18/2017 9:44:10 PM PST
by
Yosemitest
(It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
To: Pelham
who the heck is Deborah Gibson?
To: rolling_stone
“who the heck is Deborah Gibson?”
She is one of Moore’s accusers, but she’s not the one I meant, which is Beverly Young Nelson. Not to be confused with Leigh Corfman, the alleged 14 yr old.
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posted on
11/18/2017 10:12:48 PM PST
by
Pelham
To: Pelham
To: rolling_stone
I know what the accusations are, I just get their names mixed up.
The whole thing is a transparent political hatchet job, probably run by Team McConnell rather than the Democrats.
Moore has been running for office for 40 years and he’s been in the news most of that time. If he was involved in scandal his foes would have dug it up years ago.
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posted on
11/18/2017 10:32:27 PM PST
by
Pelham
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