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To: Valpal1
We can either lock the nutters up with all that entails including abuse and loss of civil liberties and increasing the size of the police state or we can accept that freedom includes risk and a duty to take responsibility for defending oneself from those risks.

 

50-100 years ago, we routinely locked up (prison or mental wards) nuts like this. We had no problems with any loss of civil liberties or increasing the police state back then.

We clearly need to return to the values, customs, laws and traditions that we had 50-100 years ago.

15 posted on 11/16/2017 9:21:47 AM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd

You ever work in one of those state institutions? I did.

There was definitely abuse of every kind and palm greasing if the estate of the person being locked up was coveted by someone with power and money was not unknown.

Don’t romanticize the past. State-run institution have a bad reputation for a reason. Lack of accountability and vast sums of government money attract the worst elements of the human race.

Look at what crap goes on in the foster care system still today, do you really think the system for caring for the mentally ill and mentally incompetent (most of the institutionalized were abandoned retarded people, not mentally ill) who generally cannot effectively advocate and protect themselves was any better?


18 posted on 11/16/2017 9:51:29 AM PST by Valpal1 (I am grown weary.)
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