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To: Yogafist
If Trump signs this (and I am 99% he will), then he is going to jettison a tremendous amount of goodwill and a large percentage of his biggest supporters.

I have been a forum member for almost 20 years. I think I have a pretty good sense of the winds of politics. I used to live in Washington DC, I was in hearing of the House and Senate Armed Services Committees, and I have been in the Capitol. I have served in the Pentagon. I worked with contractors and lobbyists. I used to visit offices in Chrystal City and Georgetown, and we engaged in long conversations with high ranking staffers and former members of Congress.

For people who assume that the revolving door is how it all works, well, they are correct.

The GOP has admitted that these bills are written by K Street, and for their lobbyists. They are written to benefit business, and screw the middle class.

What is going on here with these tax bills is that a certain side have been designated as the "winners" -- but that is going to come at a tremendous price of the "losers." What the "winners" don't want, above all, are the facts to come out until their win is achieved. Fear of losing brings anger and hatred upon those who might expose their position before they get what they want.

I have seen it a 1000 times.

Here on FR - many posters want to project the myth that anyone who is in opposition to these bill is a Communist, Socialist, or Trump hater. Further, they want to deceive people into the lie that "corporations don't pay taxes" - and they blatantly say that as we are debating the middle class getting soaked to pay for a slash in the corporate rate from 35% to 20%. If I had a dollar for every poster who said that lie here in the last month, I could take my wife out for a nice dinner.

Now that McStain has come out in support of this bill, I believe it will pass. I think there will be a tremendous boost in the already overinflated stock market. But many middle class Trump supporters are going to get creamed.

We will lose the House in 2018 if this passes. I am almost certain of that.

And then, Impeachment will begin.

Mark my words.

37 posted on 11/18/2017 11:08:30 AM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: SkyPilot

McCain understands this bill will destroy the Trump presidency.
His support ought to give everyone reason to pause.


39 posted on 11/18/2017 11:45:08 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: SkyPilot
We will lose the House in 2018 if this passes. I am almost certain of that.

I think we will lose the House in 2018 if this passes. I also think we'll lose it if it doesn't. Polls have shown generic Democrats way ahead of generic Republicans for quite a while now. Probably the only chance to head that off is if the economy is quite strong and Trump and the Republicans make sure to take credit for it, which they'll have to do without any help from the media.

40 posted on 11/18/2017 12:20:37 PM PST by lasereye
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