Posted on 11/20/2017 2:11:22 PM PST by deplorableindc
A federal prosecutor said Monday that six alleged rioters are guilty of charges that carry potential prison time because they joined a sea of black masks on the day of President Trumps inauguration and didnt leave after some marchers committed acts of vandalism.
Assistant U.S. Attorney Jennifer Kerkhoff admitted there is no evidence that any of the six committed vandalism in downtown Washington, and focused her opening trial remarks instead on fear the larger group caused locals as some activists damaged shop windows and vehicles.
In her opening statement, Kerkhoff used the term sea of black masks six times to describe a march that lasted about 30 minutes before being partially surrounded by police, who arrested more than 230 activists, reporters and legal observers.
You dont have to be the one who breaks the window to be guilty, she said. By anonymizing people who did smash windows, she said, they actively helped those with the hammers and crowbars.
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You dont have to be the one who breaks the window to be guilty,
Uh...yeah you do.
This is a FANTASTIC line of argument!
You dont have to be the one who breaks the window to be guilty, she said. By anonymizing people who did smash windows [i.e, by being in the “sea of black masks”], she said, they actively helped those with the hammers and crowbars.
So, if you show up at a protest disguising yourself and foiling identification, you are aiding and abetting those who committed the more serious crimes. Love it! Charge them ALL as accomplices.
How long before a leftist judge denies this obvious logic?
Don’t have to be either a leftist - or a libertarian - to see that this kind of “logic” is a threat to everyone’s rights.
If they had all 230 arrestees in this trial they might have something with the non-specific argument. Otherwise, easy win for defense.
I.e., if you’re in a group of folks robbing a house, and one kills somebody, you’re all guilty of murder, as the law goes.
But prosecution couldn’t say that only some are guilty of murder, while others not.
At least, I think so!
Not if the charge is rioting.
Checkmate.
I was there and it was pretty bad the police wouldn’t let me going into the parking garage where I left my car and then we needed a police escort into a safe driving area. ANOTHER GUY I SAW WAS SPRAYED WITH pepper spray ON HIS WAY TO WORK AND HE HAD to go to work with his face burning/stinging.
It certainly is a threat to everyone’s “right” to riot.
OTOH, if you realize there’s actually no “right” to riot — the problem is easily solved. Don’t wear a black mask, where masked rioters are creating mayhem.
A gathering doesn’t to be very out of hand to be what the law considers a riot. So sure, charge them with that.
If the cops want to send you to jail for something you didn’t do, however, you will want them to prove their case.
Several thugs from my city arrested. If they are convicted of felonies I’m going to do my civic duty and report them to board of elections
“Each faces five felony destruction of property charges, a felony riot-incitement charge and misdemeanors for allegedly rioting and conspiring to riot.”
As much as I would have liked seeing police or shop owners shoot these thugs and terrorists - if they had been given the justification - you have to be the one who broke the window to be guilty of felony destruction of property. The obvious exception, if the letter of conspiracy law says otherwise, I’ll leave in the hands of lawyers. The same is true for felony riot incitement.
As for rioting and conspiracy to riot, I can see their presence, in pre-planned outfits that anonymize the other thugs, as proof of conspiracy. Even America’s most dangerous enemies, Antifa, BLM, and other socialist/democrat thugs, have the right to a fair trial. We cannot change the rules just because decent people despise these criminals.
The minute they HID THEIR FACES during a felony, they needed to be arrested. Think about it - a bunch of people start robbing a bank and you put on a ski mask - probably not a good idea if you value your freedom.
Masks are illegal anyway in DC.
Who allowed these Bakunin wannabes to get away with as much as they have across the country?
“Uh...yeah you do”
Uh...no you don’t.
This should get tossed
You have the right to hide your identity in public, dress the same as those committing crimes, thereby acting as their accomplice, and expect this to be consequence free? Why?
Accomplice
A person who knowingly, voluntarily, or intentionally gives assistance to another in (or in some cases fails to prevent another from) the commission of a crime. An accomplice is criminally liable to the same extent as the principal. An accomplice, unlike an accessory, is typically present when the crime is committed.
Read up on conspiracy laws.
Okay boys.
Just remember: what goes around, comes around.
This one should make it to the Supreme Court.
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