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To: blam

B.S. Like being in Vietnam caused vets to have type 2 diabetes 50 years later, yet the Vietnamese don’t have the same problem? Never mind they spent the last 50 years eating garbage and laying on the sofa watching Oprah. And don’t get me started on PTSD. If a third of PTSD cases ere real it would mean that we have the weakest cardre of soldiers of any nation ever. We diagnose and pay vets for being afraid? If they were not afraid then I would say they have a mental disorder. It is all just another ageny (Veterans Administration) trying to get more Americans to rely on the government for a paycheck.


27 posted on 11/22/2017 11:09:09 AM PST by TonyM
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And your combat experience is?

Did you watch Band of Brothers or Pacific? The interviews with the Easy soldiers should tell you that even those guys were effected. PTSD affects every one to one level or another. Before my combat deployment to Afghanistan I probably would have ignored it when a POS like you post this drivel, but now I come to the defense of other combat veterans against excrement like you.

32 posted on 11/22/2017 12:47:41 PM PST by fireforeffect (A kind word and a 2x4, gets you more than just a kind word.)
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"If a third of PTSD cases ere real it would mean that we have the weakest cardre (sic)of soldiers of any nation ever"

Pretty obvious that you've never been anywhere near the wrong side of a rifle. I don't doubt that there is abuse of the system but PTSD, as they are calling it now, exists in some form in all combat veterans. It's the normal human reaction to 24/7 fear, seeing others around you killed and maimed and having to try to kill other people - while trying your damndest not to kill innocent bystanders or your fellow soldiers/Marines. It's going sleepless for long periods of time, carrying more weight than a pack mule in stunning heat, while nor knowing if the next step you take will be your last.

People like you are only too willing to let the rest of us take the burdens and the many residuals afterward, while you get to carp from the sidelines.

Well, bravo. I hope you don't mind that I will continue to respect and admire my generation's and our current times' veterans far more than the service-avoiders and sideline gripers, as you seem to be.

43 posted on 11/22/2017 5:47:12 PM PST by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: TonyM
It is all just another ageny (Veterans Administration) trying to get more Americans to rely on the government for a paycheck.

I call bullspit on that statement. If true I wouldn't have had to fight the VA tooth and nail for years and still today for upgrades to shell fragment wounds from rockets, shredded muscle from explosives and you decry the unworthiness of unseen but still real damage by Agent Orange or PTSD and think the VA tries to get all the vets unearned benefits. The VA hands nothing out easy as you state. Sure there's fake mental con artist vets, those need to be punished and followup evaluations done.

44 posted on 11/22/2017 6:01:05 PM PST by redcatcherb412 (Emerged intact.)
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