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To: nonsporting
If you plan to carry at church, for your fellow parishioners’ sake please get training.

I would take it a step farther...If you plan to carry please get training. Utah issues a CCW permit recognized in like 26 states for taking a 4 hour lecture class without even dry holster practice, much less firing a shot. I have one but I have enough sense to be professionally trained in defensive shooting from a holster and to practice regularly. Even the states that require shooting only require a bare minimum. You can be legal with CCW without being competent or qualified to use a gun, kind of scary.

14 posted on 11/27/2017 2:46:28 PM PST by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them)
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To: Magnum44
You can be legal with CCW without being competent or qualified to use a gun, kind of scary.

It is. And I am glad to hear that you've taken additional measures to gain life saving skills.

CCW training is merely familiarization with the justified use (or threatened use) of lethal force and includes coverage of those State statutes which govern such use. It is not defensive handgun training, as you point out.

Lott's big thing is liberalized concealed carry and the effect it has on discouraging multiple victim massacres. (See his joint paper with Landes on this very topic.) It's a numbers game for him. I am interested in discrete events and favorable outcomes.

I encourage every one to not short shrift the training budget. Many buy weapon after weapon, burn through a ton of ammo and punch lots of holes in paper targets, but never learn to fight effectively with a weapon. Firearms training constitutes a triad of skills -- marksmanship, tactics and field craft. Most know little about the latter two.

15 posted on 11/27/2017 3:39:44 PM PST by nonsporting
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