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What the Flynn Plea Means
National Review ^

Posted on 12/01/2017 8:37:41 PM PST by springwater13

While initial reporting is portraying Flynn’s guilty plea as a major breakthrough in Mueller’s investigation of potential Trump-campaign collusion with the Russian regime, I suspect the opposite is true.

Nevertheless, as I explained in connection with George Papadopoulos (who also pled guilty in Mueller’s investigation for lying to the FBI), when a prosecutor has a cooperator who was an accomplice in a major criminal scheme, the cooperator is made to plead guilty to the scheme. This is critical because it proves the existence of the scheme. In his guilty-plea allocution (the part of a plea proceeding in which the defendant admits what he did that makes him guilty), the accomplice explains the scheme and the actions taken by himself and his co-conspirators to carry it out. This goes a long way toward proving the case against all of the subjects of the investigation. That is not happening in Flynn’s situation.

Instead, like Papadopoulos, he is being permitted to plead guilty to a mere process crime. A breaking report from ABC News indicates that Flynn is prepared to testify that Trump directed him to make contact with the Russians — initially to lay the groundwork for mutual efforts against ISIS in Syria. That, however, is exactly the sort of thing the incoming national-security adviser is supposed to do in a transition phase between administrations. If it were part of the basis for a “collusion” case arising out of Russia’s election meddling, then Flynn would not be pleading guilty to a process crime — he’d be pleading guilty to an espionage conspiracy.

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To the contrary, for all the furor, we have a small-potatoes plea in Flynn’s case — just as we did in Papadopoulos’s case, despite extensive “collusion” evidence. Meanwhile, the only major case Mueller has brought, against former Trump-campaign chairman Paul Manafort and an associate, has nothing to do with the 2016 election. It is becoming increasingly palpable that, whatever “collusion” means, there was no actionable, conspiratorial complicity by the Trump campaign in the Kremlin’s machinations.
1 posted on 12/01/2017 8:37:42 PM PST by springwater13
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That Mueller threatened Flynn’s son?


2 posted on 12/01/2017 8:45:17 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: springwater13

Andrew is correct. However since this was written ABC had to retract part of the story.


3 posted on 12/01/2017 9:00:20 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: springwater13
Two points:

From Andy McCarthy's NR article: "That is not happening in Flynn’s situation. Instead, like Papadopoulos, he is being permitted to plead guilty to a mere process crime. A breaking report from ABC News indicates that Flynn is prepared to testify that Trump directed him to make contact with the Russians — initially to lay the groundwork for mutual efforts against ISIS in Syria. That, however, is exactly the sort of thing the incoming national-security adviser is supposed to do in a transition phase between administrations. If it were part of the basis for a "collusion" case arising out of Russia’s election meddling, then Flynn would not be pleading guilty to a process crime — he’d be pleading guilty to an espionage conspiracy."

And from DC Whispers: "What it actually amounts to is a truthful lie – a gross misrepresentation of what really happened."

"Consider this – Trump won the election. He directs his would-be National Security Adviser to reach out to Russia."

"So? That’s not illegal. It’s prudent."

"The Deep State and the media are turning something every incoming administration has done in preparing the normal change in power into something nefarious hoping the American public are dumb enough to swallow the bait whole. Some will."

So, Mr. Mueller, can we wrap this up by Christmas?

4 posted on 12/01/2017 9:00:22 PM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: springwater13

President Trump had better be careful not to deny doing what he had a right to do as President-Elect.


5 posted on 12/01/2017 9:02:25 PM PST by luvbach1 (I hope Trump runs roughshod over the inevitable obstuctionists, Dems, progs, libs, or RINOs!)
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To: springwater13

So after a whole year, all Mueller has is a bullshit Scooter Libby take-down.

Know the truth in advance, but set up a guy to see if he will lie or spin the story. Create headlines by taking down one of the Chiefs indians with a petty process crime.

If this is not evidence that Mueller is a soulless political hack working simply to create headlines, then I don’t know what is.


6 posted on 12/01/2017 9:10:12 PM PST by PGR88
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To: springwater13

Bookmark


7 posted on 12/01/2017 9:19:21 PM PST by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: springwater13

Which is why Trump, Sessions and Rosenstein agreed back in May that Bob Mueller would be the best person to lead this investigation. Sessions had already recused himself, Rosenstein was new in the Deputy AG post but brought a stellar record, and Mueller had already served 12 years as FBI director (2 more than the law allows, which is why Obama had to ask Congress for a 2 year extension. Point being, there was no way Trump was going to hire Mueller to run the FBI, he was term-limited out. Yet Trump interviewed Mueller on May 16, ostensibly for the FBI job, and then Rosenstein appointed him Special Counsel on May 17th, and Chris Wray was named to head the FBI on June 7. The entire “interview” process was intended to blow the fake “Russiagate” allegations out of the water by engaging a highly respected independent investigator with NO ties to Trump so the results would be unequivocal and unbiased.

The dots are right there and it’s not difficult to connect them if one simply ignores most of the uninformed blather on FR and does a bit of independent analysis.


8 posted on 12/01/2017 9:25:50 PM PST by bigbob (People say believe half of what you see son and none of what you hear - M. Gaye)
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To: Gene Eric

I don’t doubt he threatened his son. It is a typical prosecutorial practice, threatened family members, heap tons and tons of charges on someone. I know someone who was in a barroom brawl, just fists, no one hospitalized, who was looking at 20 some odd charges to include attempted homicide, brandishing weapons, just tons of ridiculous things as a result of a pushing match and on top of it, they threaten his girlfriend with charges. People cop to a plea all the time to avoid these headaches.


9 posted on 12/01/2017 9:30:02 PM PST by rey
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To: bigbob

Trump trusts them too much. Not his fault really, as he was used to dealing with employees/family/friends who were loyal and honest. The DC cesspool disgusts all decent Americans.


10 posted on 12/01/2017 9:34:02 PM PST by Shortstop7
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To: springwater13

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This is one of those rare times when the National Review is close to correct.

But they still miss the real picture.

But then, even Alex Jones seems to be missing the real picture, unless he is playing along.
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11 posted on 12/01/2017 9:35:29 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Shortstop7

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Do not worry about Trump!

He is in control of the situation.
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12 posted on 12/01/2017 9:37:21 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Art in Idaho

Rush was talking about this today.


13 posted on 12/01/2017 9:37:33 PM PST by 4Liberty (MSM = Democrat' PR firm. Mainstream "news" = Fiat news.)
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To: 4Liberty

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Rush is completely in the dark.

Trump doesn’t trust him, and I think rightly so. Rush is part of the MSM, even though he tries to pretend he isn’t.
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14 posted on 12/01/2017 9:40:37 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: 4Liberty
Rush was talking about this today.

Missed Rush. Glad he's covering it. Sounds like a nothingburger as far as Trump is concerned so can they wrap this up now?

15 posted on 12/01/2017 9:43:09 PM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: bigbob

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>> “if one simply ignores most of the uninformed blather on FR and does a bit of independent analysis” <<

I agree with you this time!

Mueller was a Lieutenant in the USMC with a stellar record. He can’t have been turned by the swamp.
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16 posted on 12/01/2017 9:49:02 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Art in Idaho

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No “wrap up” yet.

Big things are going down and for a time it may put the hurt on the markets and the dollar, but Trump’s plan will prevail.
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17 posted on 12/01/2017 9:52:21 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Gene Eric

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Mueller isn’t threatening anyone.

This is a big pageant, so stock up on popcorn and butter.
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18 posted on 12/01/2017 9:55:40 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: springwater13; All

off topic- but is anyone experiencing FR not showing excerpts under the news stories? All i get now are links to the articles on FR- no description or excerpt of what the links are about? The excerpts show when i click o the link to the FR post- but not in the list on main pages anymore?


19 posted on 12/01/2017 9:57:12 PM PST by Bob434
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To: Bob434

Make sure at the top your on comments, not activity or articles.


20 posted on 12/01/2017 10:02:37 PM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Wisdom and education are different things. Don't confuse them.)
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