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Lying to FBI Is Illegal; How About the FBI Lying to Us?
Townhall.com ^ | Dec 02, 2017 | Jeff Crouere

Posted on 12/01/2017 10:31:57 PM PST by Oshkalaboomboom

While the liberal media is celebrating the announcement that former Trump National Security Adviser Michael Flynn has pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI, a bigger scandal was practically ignored.

On Thursday, Judicial Watch released 29 pages of FBI emails regarding the inexcusable June 27, 2016 meeting between former President Bill Clinton and then Attorney General Loretta Lynch on the tarmac of the Sky Harbor International Airport in Phoenix, AZ. This meeting was not accidental, as Clinton purposely delayed the takeoff of his aircraft to arrange the supposedly impromptu encounter with the Attorney General.

According to Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton, “These new FBI documents show the FBI was more concerned about a whistle-blower who told the truth about the infamous Clinton-Lynch tarmac meeting than the scandalous meeting itself.”

In the midst of a FBI investigation into Hillary Clinton’s “extremely careless” handling of top secret email communications, Lynch held a secretive meeting with her husband. This bombshell information would have never been made public if not for the investigative work of Phoenix television anchor Christopher Sign, who received a tip about the meeting from a “trusted source.”

With an ongoing Justice Department investigation into the improper handling of email communications, it was highly improper for Lynch to agree to the meeting with Bill Clinton just days before FBI agents would interview his wife. Once confronted about the tarmac meeting, Lynch claimed they only discussed golf and grandchildren, which is a completely ludicrous explanation for the 30-minute meeting.

If the meeting was so innocent, why did the Justice Department withhold key documents for so long? After an initial July 7, 2016 Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request by Judicial Watch for documents pertaining to the meeting, the Justice Department claimed that nothing could be located. Only after an official FOIA lawsuit did the department provide the various FBI email exchanges.

As noted by Fitton, the real focus of the emails was to try to locate the leaker who exposed the meeting. One unidentified FBI agent lamented that the meeting was disclosed to the press and claimed that “We need to find that guy” in order to get him fired or sanctioned by his supervisors. The emails show that the FBI believed the source was a Phoenix police officer and one agent expressed a desire to ban the officer from being involved in future security details.

This anger is very indicative of what is wrong with the FBI today. The source who leaked news of the meeting to the local media did a real public service and should be commended. Americans had a right to know that the Attorney General was involved in a questionable meeting while an investigation was purportedly ongoing. Unfortunately, instead of congratulating the source, the FBI wanted to punish this individual, obviously because they wanted to protect the reputation of the Attorney General and the presidential aspirations of Hillary Clinton.

The FBI should be impartial, not be taking sides in political campaigns. The bureau was obviously politically comprised, much like the IRS during their unfair harassment of Tea Party groups.

In any vigorous and honest FBI investigation, agents should be outraged if the Attorney General held a secret meeting with the spouse of the subject being examined for wrongdoing. Instead agents showed only concern about identifying the police officer who caused the embarrassment. This nonchalant attitude was not shared by Lynch who admitted that the ill-advised meeting “cast a cloud” on the Justice Department’s investigation into Hillary Clinton.

These disclosures lead to the distressing conclusion that the Hillary Clinton investigation was a sham from the very beginning. In fact, when Clinton was finally interviewed by the FBI on July 2, 2016, she was not under oath and there was no recording of the meeting. Several weeks earlier, before the FBI had interviewed Clinton or 17 key witnesses in the investigation, then FBI Director James Comey had already begun drafting her exoneration statement.

These unusual procedures were denounced by U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley (R-IA) and U.S. Senator Lindsay Graham (R-SC) in a joint statement. According to the Senators, “Conclusion first, fact-gathering second—that’s no way to run an investigation. The FBI should be held to a higher standard than that, especially in a matter of such great public interest and controversy.”

Of course, the Senators are right as the FBI’s handling of this matter was atrocious. A mere three days after the inadequate interview of Clinton, Comey announced that she would not be indicted despite what many legal analysts believe were her clear violations of federal law.

Evidently, the FBI, under the direction of James Comey, had no intention of ever truly investigating Hillary Clinton and bringing charges against her. If there was ever an issue that needed a Special Counsel investigation, it is not “Russian collusion,” but the Justice Department’s collusion with Hillary Clinton.


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Why was a bigger scandal practically ignored? Who controls the narrative? Who gets to set the tone at White House press conferences? Who has the bully pulpit?
1 posted on 12/01/2017 10:31:57 PM PST by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
Did James Comey Lie Under Oath?: Comey's story of why he leaked to NYT was that Trump had issued his tweet on 5/12/17 saying Comey better hope there wasn't a tape so Comey had to get his story out there! Problem - the leaked story via Comey was published by the NYT the day before, on 5/11/17.
2 posted on 12/01/2017 10:39:13 PM PST by Steven W.
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

The truth of the matter is that there are no legal constraints preventing any member of law enforcement from lying to you. They do it all the time. They will tell you the sun sets in the East if they think it will help to incriminate you.
And I was struck by what’s happened to Flynn where the government can use it’s “unlimited resources” against you until you are force by economic circumstances to give in.
Anyone detained by any police agency should never say a single word to them other than name and address without their own lawyer present.
Try filing a complaint against the cops! I did, and the $hit storm that I started was unbelievable. And they tried every trick in the book to find some way to discredit me and my allegations. It was all about “protecting the officer involved.” They even tried engaging my sympathies bringing up how my complaint could affect the cop’s retirement. They don’t give a f*ck about you!


3 posted on 12/01/2017 10:41:36 PM PST by vette6387
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

The brain is not the boss! The Aztecs invented the vacation!

All I Know Is That Everything You Know Is Wrong!


4 posted on 12/01/2017 10:43:54 PM PST by dr_lew (I)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Note not a single resignation from the FBI after this outrageous politicized conduct. If you think they will be on our side when the SHTF I have some nice ocean front property in Arizona to sell you.


5 posted on 12/01/2017 10:44:20 PM PST by lodi90
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
the liberal media is celebrating the announcement that former Trump National Security Adviser Obama director of the Defense Intelligence Agency, Michael Flynn has pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI...

Fixed it.

6 posted on 12/01/2017 10:46:56 PM PST by RC one (The 2nd Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

It truly is sad that the federal law enforcement in this country picks and chooses its targets. There is no continuity for like crimes in this nation. It depends on who you are and how much money one has as to the punishment doled out. Respect is no longer a word connected to the FBI and CIA.


7 posted on 12/01/2017 10:50:57 PM PST by taxesareforever (Islam is an ideology. It is NOT a religion.)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

LOCK THEM (FBI) UP!


8 posted on 12/01/2017 10:53:34 PM PST by House Atreides (BOYCOTT the NFL, its products and players 100% - PERMANENTLY)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Government can lie to you without a problem.

You cannot lie to government without a problem.

I guess the only recourse is to stay silent.


9 posted on 12/02/2017 12:19:25 AM PST by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: lodi90

If you think many of us will be on their side as their homes and families are overrun, think again.


10 posted on 12/02/2017 12:20:10 AM PST by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Two questions for Mr. Comey:

1. What exactly is the difference between “extremely careless” and gross negligence ?
2. Who made the call to change one for the other ?


11 posted on 12/02/2017 12:45:48 AM PST by A strike (Academia is almost as racist as Madison Ave.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

You got that right, yet the government is not averse to torture, ftg.


12 posted on 12/02/2017 12:51:39 AM PST by A strike (Academia is almost as racist as Madison Ave.)
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To: lodi90

I’ve know how corrupt and debased the FBI was since they tried to railroad Richard Jewel an America Hero.


13 posted on 12/02/2017 12:58:38 AM PST by JohnyBoy (The GOP Senate is intentionally trying to lose the majority.)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Who is more veritable? A retired Army 3 star General who rose to be head of the DIA or a former Marine infantry Lt who rose to become the longest serving Director of the FBI, albeit under the Democrats?

Both served in their senior capacity during Obama, although Mueller is about 15 years senior to Flynn and became a seasoned lawyer when Flynn was only a Lt.

Flynn’s ill repute originated with standing up to the Obama regime, maintaining Al Quada was not on the run in Afghanistan, which now has become fact. Obama always spun the opposite and always appeared to be pro covert CIA ops supporting the shadow government. He also led the way to promote the release of Pizzagate material, now being labeled as fake news by the left, but a coverup as understood by the right/middle. Flynn also supported putting Hillary in jail.

Mueller’s ill repute has been running the FBI when Hillary and Obama was in power, and attacking Flynn. On the other hand his life as a Marine Lt in Vietnam appears impressive, though wounded by small arms fire.

I hope Flynn and Mueller are working the same side and intend to defend the Constitution of the US.


14 posted on 12/02/2017 1:21:53 AM PST by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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To: Cvengr

Washington DC & US Government the BIG LIE 24/7 365


15 posted on 12/02/2017 2:32:50 AM PST by mason-dixon (As Mason said to Dixon, you have to draw the line somewhere.)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

It should be a law. Fair to both sides.


16 posted on 12/02/2017 2:54:29 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
My parents always expected me to tell them the truth but now later in life I've learned to not always expect the same from them. Why? Because the parent-child hierarchy never changes, even after they're dead and gone. This hierarchy does not exist legitimately between the FBI and the American people. So for your own good you may want to assume that everything the FBI says publicly is at least 'non-truth' and that you have the right to question their so-called authority. However, it may also be a wise move to not get in their way, if you know what I mean.
17 posted on 12/02/2017 3:00:46 AM PST by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: Steven W.

All I know is that for the FBI and the VA lying to us is SOP.


18 posted on 12/02/2017 3:11:03 AM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Across the span of eight Obama years, the Left successfully completed their corruption of formerly noble institutions: the DOJ, Academe, and our Military. While I have some residual respect for the admirals and generals, and the utmost respect for the riflemen, the politicizing of our Armed Forces is a tragedy.

Respect for the FBI? I have none. Perhaps someone can explain to me why anyone should cooperate with the FBI, the Stasi wing, the sword and shield of the democrat party.


19 posted on 12/02/2017 3:28:39 AM PST by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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...”Respect for the FBI? I have none. Perhaps someone can explain to me why anyone should cooperate with the FBI, the sword and shield of the democrat party.”...

You make an important statement which, I am sure, resonates with many people who read FR, as it does with me. The title of this article is very revealing: “Lying to the FBI is illegal? How about the FBI lying to us.”


20 posted on 12/02/2017 4:03:45 AM PST by jazzlite
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