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George Will Is Wrong about Masterpiece Cakeshop: The Right NOT to Promote a Message is Protected
National Review ^ | 12/05/2017 | David French

Posted on 12/05/2017 7:13:17 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks SeekAndFind.

[snip] Political correctness is communist propaganda writ small. In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, nor to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is to co-operate with evil, and in some small way to become evil oneself. One’s standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to. [/snip]

Dr. Theodore Dalrymple: Our Culture, What’s Left Of It
interviewed by Jamie Glazov | Frontpage | August 31, 2005
http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=7445


61 posted on 12/05/2017 11:35:38 AM PST by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: Political Junkie Too
At what point do "protected class" laws become a bill of attainder? In other words, if the application of "protected class" becomes such that, in effect, everyone EXCEPT Christian white males becomes protected by law, then is that law unconstitutional?

The court may just wind up answering that very question next summer.

62 posted on 12/05/2017 11:42:49 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: SeekAndFind

bump


63 posted on 12/05/2017 11:43:00 AM PST by Albion Wilde (I was not elected to continue a failed system. I was elected to change it. --Donald J. Trump)
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To: SeekAndFind
As a lifelong opponent of all actions by Government, which attack the rights of a property owner to use his property according to his or her own lights--so long as they do not overtly seek to actually injure anyone--the writer, to my Conservative focus, is letting himself get drawn into a pursuit of red herrings.

But, then, I do not see George Will as a Conservative icon. He may be glib & articulate, but not really Conservative. Wasn't he a "never Trumper," or am I mistaken?

64 posted on 12/05/2017 11:55:02 AM PST by Ohioan
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To: DoodleDawg
You have the right to go into business.

You have the right to decide what kind of business it will be.

You have the right to decide what you will or will not do in that business.

This idea that going into business is a privilege and it obligates you to then preform any service as long as you are paid is down right dangerous.

It leads directly to rape being ok as long as you leave some cash behind.

After all, you were just compelling a service.

65 posted on 12/05/2017 12:33:15 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles! (pink bow))
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To: SunkenCiv

there are divorce law firms that advertise for men or for women.

lawyers do not have to take all cases “just because” they walked in the door.

Did the judges forget or have they never had a moral compass?


66 posted on 12/05/2017 12:40:17 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
You have the right to go into business.
You have the right to decide what kind of business it will be.

You have the right to decide what you will or will not do in that business.

But pending a decision from the Supreme Court, and depending on which state you are in, you do not have the right to deny service based on race, sex, religion, age, disability, sexual orientation, and probably a couple of other classifications as well. That may change this summer.

67 posted on 12/05/2017 12:41:40 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Anima Mundi
Cake is food. Icing is food. But design and the skill to decorate a cake beautifully = artistic expression.


68 posted on 12/05/2017 12:49:25 PM PST by pax_et_bonum (Never Forget the SEALs of Extortion 17 - and God Bless The United States of America.)
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To: DoodleDawg
You seem to think that rights come from SCOTUS. They do not.

These are natural rights. If they are denied then the government is in the wrong.

A government that is repeatedly in the wrong is one that needs to be changed.

69 posted on 12/05/2017 8:34:39 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles! (pink bow))
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To: longtermmemmory
lawyers do not have to take all cases “just because” they walked in the door.

Now they do.

So let's all go make the ACLU take our second amendment cases.

In fact, let's force the SCOTUS to hear every case that is referred to them.

If they want to take this route let's give it to them good and hard.

70 posted on 12/05/2017 8:38:10 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles! (pink bow))
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