> Should he have to make a Nazi cake flag, if someone requests it? How about depicting bestiality, child porn, or nudity? <
Good questions. I’d draw the line on a depiction of violence, or of an illegal activity. But others would differ. What a mess. That’s why I’d take the coward’s way out, and go fishing instead.
Good questions. I’d draw the line on a depiction of violence, or of an illegal activity.
Gay Marriage was illegal in Colorado at the time he refused to make the cake. This came up in the arguments.
Violence is subjective to an extent. So even your “objective” sounding criteria is a call to conscious. The courts should come down on the side of INDIVIDUAL conscious and freedom even if that means a shop keeper puts a “no gays served” sign. As reprehensible as white power or black power or other race or gender biased groups may be, they also have the right to freedom of expression.
Well cowards don’t make good Supreme Court justices :-)
The answer is simpler. Search your conservative values and Constitutional understanding. You cannot force anyone to work for something they find intolerant or religiously objectionable. I think you made the point above. Could you ask a Jewish caterer to serve on Saturday? Could you ask a Jewish baker to make a swastika shaped cake? A black baker to make a KKKake or cross of fire cake?
The baker seemed reasonable to me. He did not refuse to serve the gay customers. He refused to create something he found objectionable. That is the difference. He if hung a sign “no gays allowed” he would be intolerably wrong. But it is equally intolerably wrong for the gay man to insist that he create something to celebrate that which offends his religious belief.
Or even more simple to understand: Open to the public means you will not deny your wares to any member of the public. This does not mean the public gets to insist you to make special wares to suit their whim. It doesn’t matter if they wanted a “gay cake” or a 15 layer cake. Could a straight Christian couple insist the baker make a cake he doesn’t want to make? Then why should the gay couple?
I’d draw the line on a depiction of violence, or “of an illegal activity”.