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The Upside of Office Flirtation?
Slate ^ | December 5, 2017 | Allison Benedikt

Posted on 12/06/2017 12:12:07 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

When I was 23 years old, my boss would look down the gap at the waistband of my jeans when he walked past my desk. I was an entry-level fact-checker at my first magazine job, and he was an older and more powerful editor. My career, at the time, was in his hands. Once, when we had finished working on a story together, he suggested we get a drink to celebrate. It was a Friday night, and I remember feeling extremely nervous as we sat across from each other in a dark bar. He was flirting with me, I could tell. The next weekend, he asked me out again. A few days later, he kissed me on the steps of the West 4th subway station without first getting my consent. We’ve now been happily married for 14 years and have three children.

I’ve thought back on that origin story several times over the past weeks, as horrific allegations of sexual assault and harassment have piled up alongside murkier stories of older men “forcibly kissing” younger women who didn’t want to be kissed, men planting “unexpected” kisses on female colleagues, men being “creepy AF” in Twitter DMs, men asking women if they are single in quasi-professional settings, men touching female colleagues in bars, men being “gross”—basically, stories of men, often men with some power, trying to get with women who are not interested. If I had not been interested in my husband’s advances, would that have been harassment? Was it harassment anyway, since he was my boss? Today, many people seem to think the answer is yes.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: flirting; relationships; sexualharassment; work
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1 posted on 12/06/2017 12:12:07 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Yes, he should not have looked down her pants.


2 posted on 12/06/2017 12:16:00 AM PST by Jemian (War Eagle!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

She is going to be run off of the liberal plantation for such a normal, balanced article in the cesspool that is Slate.


3 posted on 12/06/2017 12:20:59 AM PST by LongWayHome
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To: Jemian

Ah, to be in my 30s again.

I worked at an investment bank in Manhattan with too many stunning women to count. A million 20 and 30 somethings one more beautiful than the next.

I told a gal or two that dress was their color and they looked great.

When a few sat on my lap I did not touch them but didn’t push them to the floor. I also didn’t say a word that could be misconstrued!

When my beautiful boss stood over me to explain work a million times over a decade I died a million silent deaths.

When one said we should have a sleep over party I said nothing, just smiled.

I asked several girls out after it was made REALLY obvious that they wanted me to. What we did on our dates was our business.

ONCE, I made a trip to the bathroom FOUR times in 2 hours to pass a gal who had dressed for an interview with another place before work.

She said she had dressed like a “wh...” for that interview.

No, she just dressed Really Sexy and it took me a while to calm down internally!!! But I did. As did all the guys.

Called self restraint.

See I don’t give a damn where the world is at in terms of what’s appropriate and what’s not and how much respect or disrespect is being accepted.

I just stay true to myself.

A great man once told me “There’s times you must Be in this world, not of it”.

It’s good advice.


4 posted on 12/06/2017 12:31:42 AM PST by dp0622 (The Left should know that if Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I also met my wife at work.

Once you get out of school, work is where you get to know people over time (as opposed to trying to pick up strangers in night clubs).


5 posted on 12/06/2017 12:43:58 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (Socialists want YOUR wealth redistributed, never THEIRS!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I think the tendency to punish men for being attracted to women will reinforce the hypergamy that exists in society. If you are not part of the 20% most eligible of men, you dare not interact with women, lest you lose your job, your assets and go to jail.


6 posted on 12/06/2017 12:52:29 AM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: dp0622
Dude. That's your best piece of writing yet. Better than the original column even. Also, you are absolutely right.

Well done.

7 posted on 12/06/2017 12:53:51 AM PST by bagster (Mama tried to raise me better.)
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To: LongWayHome

She found her husband while she was still young in her early 20’s (instead of playing “Sex and the City” and expecting to settle down at 39), and had three kids. She is a traitor to the Sisterhood.


8 posted on 12/06/2017 1:00:48 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (Socialists want YOUR wealth redistributed, never THEIRS!)
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>> he kissed me ... without first getting my consent.

The implication he forced his way...

We were once held to the standard of decency... today, no thanks to the Left, it’s a litigious matter.


9 posted on 12/06/2017 1:01:06 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I get groped by women all the time, and I’m not bragging. Even gross ones just jump on me here at university. I think young women are very aggressive compared to what they used to be. If they’re not grabbing, they’re doing their best to call attention to breasts or other regions. I had one, a couple of weeks ago, open up her shirt during class, then she bent over in the most awkward angle so I could see her breasts without much imagination required. (Okay, now I AM bragging.)

These chicks are out of control! Time to go to Huffpo and write my article.


10 posted on 12/06/2017 1:11:11 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

“These chicks are out of control! Time to go to Huffpo and write my article.”

They’ll just tell you they don’t publish fiction and suggest you send your male fantasy materials to Penthouse Letters in the future.


11 posted on 12/06/2017 2:19:48 AM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

“...he kissed me on the steps of the West 4th subway station without first getting my consent.”

There’s nothin’ like asking for permission to ruin a good kiss, I always say!


12 posted on 12/06/2017 2:20:30 AM PST by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

We’ve now been happily married for 14 years and have three children. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Allison Benedikt has effectively pointed out that the so called wave of anti-male retribution sweeping the country comes from relationships that are unhealthy, and that the majority of passion that exists between men and women evolves into genuine relationships.

All we are hearing about these days are the train wrecks from women who wanted the cherry but get the rotten egg.They failed to refuse or rebuff male interest and advances or alternatively failed to call the proper authorities for the protection they needed.


13 posted on 12/06/2017 2:38:21 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama FAscism) http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Any man who says anything remotely sexual or flirty in the workplace nowadays is playing Russian roulette with one empty chamber.


14 posted on 12/06/2017 2:50:13 AM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I get “hit on” all the time.

As long as the line in the sand isn’t crossed I’m okay with it.

More than okay actually.


15 posted on 12/06/2017 2:52:10 AM PST by mom4melody (,)
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Gentlemen vs. Cads

My sister told me once, that women love a gentleman but sleep with cads.

After years of general observation, I sort of agree...
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16 posted on 12/06/2017 2:52:35 AM PST by Clutch Martin (Hot sauce aside, every culture has its pancakes, just as every culture has its noodle.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I get “hit on” all the time.

As long as the line in the sand isn’t crossed I’m okay with it.

More than okay actually.


17 posted on 12/06/2017 2:53:21 AM PST by mom4melody (,)
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To: mom4melody

I’ve been married for a very long time but when I was young and pretty, men hit on me all the time. I was never offended, I was flattered. Now that it doesn’t happen anymore (except for the really old dudes, I’m still a sweet young thang to the 70 and up crowd)it makes me sad.


18 posted on 12/06/2017 3:04:10 AM PST by tuffydoodle ("Never underestimate the total depravity of the average human being.")
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To: tuffydoodle

Exactly my story. ;)


20 posted on 12/06/2017 3:06:07 AM PST by MayflowerMadam ( "Free men are not equal, and Equal men are not free".)
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