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To: Jim 0216

The State doesn’t have the right to take away constitutional rights from workers or employers any more so than any other constitutional rights.


48 posted on 12/06/2017 9:02:56 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

I think Trump is after the deduction from a persons paycheck. That puts the employer in the position of being the bookkeeper for the union.

IF a person still wants to pay union dues, they can pay such dues directly, instead of making the employer the bookkeeper.

When Scott Walker did this move in Wisconsin, the ‘union dues’ of all those Liberal teachers went from 100% being collected to about 10% being collected.


76 posted on 12/07/2017 6:11:35 AM PST by ridesthemiles (uen)
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To: Rusty0604; Repeal 16-17; AAABEST; 9YearLurker; Neoliberalnot
Guys, there is no such thing as "Constitutional Rights". The basic presumptions of the Constitution derive from the natural law of the Declaration of Independence (DofI) which essentially frames the Constitution. What does the DofI say?

all men...are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.
-DofI

First, our rights are not given by the Constitution or man or his government the way totalitarian states presume. Our rights come from our Creator God. So, we begin there - man born with God-given unalienable rights including Life and liberty.

Next, governments are formed to PROTECT those rights. The Constitution does not grant rights, it PROTECTS our PREEXISTING rights from the federal government. The Constitution creates and limits the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, not the states which were also preexistent to the Constitution.

The reason for the first ten amendments were to assuage the anti-federalists in order to get the Constitution ratified by CONFIRMING EXPLICITLY certain rights the federal government had no power to violate. The first ten amendments are NOT a "Bill of Rights" - bills of rights are what you see in totalitarian state bylaws and constitutions. Totalitarian governments think government gives people their rights.

Remember, the First Amendment specifically and ONLY addresses CONGRESS, not the states.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
First Amendment [I].

As borne out in the Ninth and Tenth Amendments which the Lying Left has done everything in their power to destroy, the constitutional presumption is 1) powers of the federal government are LIMITED to the expressed ENUMERATED powers DELEGATED by the states and the people via the Constitution and 2) those powers not enumerated to the feds are retained by and reserved to the states and the people.

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
Ninth Amendment [IX].

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
Tenth Amendment [X].

Apart from a few specific expressed regulations in the Constitution, the states are sovereign and the states and the people of the states are free to do as they please. One of those regulations is every state MUST have a republican (representative) form of government (U.S. Const, art. IV, sec. 4). This ensures that the will of the people, including protecting their rights and freedoms, govern the state via their representatives.

The feds have NO blanket authority over the states OR the people. That is why we are a FREE country, governed not by the whims of tyranny of the Rule of Man, but by the Rule of Law, the Constitution of the U.S. And our task is to recover our Free Constitutional Republic from the tyranny of the feds.

106 posted on 12/07/2017 10:31:29 AM PST by Jim W N
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