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To: wbarmy
Exactly! Several foolish things were done before and during that encounter.It was foolish for the dead guy to get drunk.When one takes steps to rearrange his brain cells he must be aware that bad things can result.It was foolish for him to be waving a gun...even a toy gun...around,particularly while drunk.

It was foolish for the cops to handle the situation the way they did in the moments leading up to the gunfire.

And it was foolish for the dead guy to reach down as he did in violation of several clear and detailed warnings.

If the guy hadn't been drunk this may well have never happened.

If the guy hadn't been waving a toy gun around this very probably would never have happened.

If the cops had handled the situation differently it probably wouldn't have happened.

And if the dead guy hadn't disobeyed several clear warnings it very probably would never have happened.

5 posted on 12/13/2017 5:07:17 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Remember: All Cultures Are Equal!)
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To: Gay State Conservative

I agree although I usually do not worry too much about what the cops are going to do.

I can only control what I do in those situations. And I cannot come back from the grave to complain about what they do.

The cops showed up at the place because they were called there. As expected. The cops see there is a weapon, so they draw, as expected. The guy comes out doing stupid things, so they order him down, as expected. He starts reaching to his waist and he gets shot, as expected.

I expect everything to go wrong in these situations, so I train myself and my children to act accordingly. If the guy had just lain flat on the floor, arms way out over his head and continued blubbering, he would have never been shot. The shots came when he reached to his waist against orders.

Yes, some of the orders were contradictory, so just lay flat on the ground, arms outstretched, until they tell you something specific. Usually, in training, I just wait until the flex bands are on the wrist. Then I can look around and say something. Anything else can get you shot.


7 posted on 12/13/2017 5:16:15 AM PST by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

This cop is a punk who set up his little game of “Simon Says” until he got his chance to pump 5 rounds from his AR-15 into the guy.


65 posted on 12/13/2017 7:09:23 AM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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