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Thom Hartmann: Trump's Tweet Slamming Gillibrand is 'Impeachable' Offense
Newsbusters.org ^ | December 14, 2017 | Jack Coleman

Posted on 12/14/2017 9:02:31 PM PST by Kaslin

Yeah, good luck with that.

The perpetual outrage machine that is the left's pathological loathing for President Trump keeps reaching new lows in absurdity, albeit only on an hourly basis.

Plenty of liberals have labeled Trump's tweet slamming Democrat Senator and potential 2020 opponent Kirsten Gillibrand as "sexual harassment." But liberal radio host Thom Hartmann went beyond that and described it -- I'm not making this up -- as grounds for impeachment.

Here's Hartmann suggesting this during a conversation with a caller to his show on Tuesday --

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HARTMANN: Merlin in Madison, Wisc. Hey, Merlin, what's on your mind today?

CALLER: Hi. I'm calling to ask your listeners to do as I'm spending the day doing. I'm calling every single member of Congress, I'm just north of 200 phone calls now, and asking them to go out on the floor of the House or the Senate and denounce Donald Trump for his sexual harassment of a sitting senator.

Got that? "Merlin" from the moonbat magnet that is Madison is spending her day phoning every member of Congress to insist that what she tells them must be carved in stone. (The goddess is alive and magic is afoot!). In other words, the absolute last person you'd want sitting next to you during an extended meal. More of this scintillating chat --

CALLER: This needs to be in the Congressional Record. Tweets are great, social media's great, but this needs to be there for history and it's just undeniable, it needs to be written in stone. And the Democrats and people of conscience of this country have to get serious about this person who is -- I hate to say it -- our president.

HARTMANN: At the very least there needs to be a resolution of censure, a censure resolution coming out of both bodies, you know, which is, of course, the Republicans control them and the Republicans are absolutely shameless. They care about money and power, they don't care about people or principles, and so it's probably not going to happen. But I think that what you're doing is very noble. I totally salute it and encourage other people to do the same, is call your elected officials and say, it is time to, at the very least, censure, you know, Donald Trump and, at the most, I mean, you know, is, is this an impeachable offense? The impeachment mechanism in the Constitution is not legal, it's political. It's very, very vague. It was intentionally made very, very vague. In fact, in the Federalist Papers, Alexander Hamilton comes right out and says what's impeachable is whatever the politicians decide is impeachable. In other words, you know, we wanted it to be vague so that, you know, we could cover a wide variety of possible exigencies, or however you say that word. And this is clearly one of them. I think this tweet, you know, arguably is even impeachable. It's just absolutely horrifying. So Merlin I'm spot on, I'm with you.

Hartmann apparently refers to Federalist #65 in which Hamilton describes the Senate's role as "a well-constituted court for the trial of impeachment." Hamilton then outlined its "subjects of jurisdiction" as --

... those offenses which proceed from the misconduct of public men, or, in other words, from the abuse or violation of some public trust. They are of a nature which may with peculiar propriety be denominated POLITICAL, as they relate chiefly to injuries done immediately to the society itself. The prosecution of them, for this reason, will seldom fail to agitate the passions of the whole community, and to divide it into parties more or less friendly or inimical to the accused. In many cases it will connect itself with the pre-existing factions, and will enlist all their animosities, partialities, influence, and interest on the one side or on the other; and in such cases there will always be the greatest danger that the decision will be regulated more by the comparative strength of the parties , than by real demonstrations of innocence or guilt. (emphasis added)

But the actual wording of the Constitution, in Article II, Section 4, cites specifics --

The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, and other high crimes and misdemeanors.

Suffice it to say this one skirts much closer to the misdemeanor end of impeachable offenses instead of "high crimes."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; US: New York
KEYWORDS: clintonnonnews; cnn; congress; gillibrand; impeachment; kirstengillibrand; libsdemonrats; mediawingofthednc; newyork; partisanmediashills; radio; thomhartman; thomhartmann; trump; twitter; virtuesignalling
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To: Kaslin

Slow down on dat Mr Hartmann. There is still the 12 Diet Cokes a day offense which is clearly impeachable. One high crime at a time please.


21 posted on 12/14/2017 10:02:36 PM PST by Zack Attack
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To: Kaslin

Commie nutcake Thom Hartmann’s just being alive is an act against humanity and God.

The man is certifiably insane. He makes Charles Manson seem sane, and that takes a lot of doing.


22 posted on 12/14/2017 10:14:25 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: proust

They want Conservatism outlawed.


23 posted on 12/14/2017 10:20:48 PM PST by bray (Pray for President Trump)
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To: Kaslin

The Left has forgotten that the president also has freedom of speech.


24 posted on 12/14/2017 10:29:35 PM PST by luvbach1 (I hope Trump runs roughshod over the inevitable obstuctionists, Dems, progs, libs, or RINOs!)
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To: chris37

The only thing Free Republic news is good for lately is a stomach ache and a headache. It’s obviously not the fault in freerepublic. It’s the country. It is lost regardless of whether Trump won or not. Barring Civil War and taking back of main stream media and the government


25 posted on 12/14/2017 10:50:30 PM PST by dp0622 (The Left should know that if Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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To: Arkansas Toothpick

I don’t think there will be another civil war. During the last one, there were no carrier groups, tanks or nuclear weapons. Whoever controls those can win any war they want as quickly as they want.

What I think you will see is increasing civil unrest, perhaps some political assassinations and the like. There will be votes for states trying to break away from the union, which I really think is for the best, and those trying to hold the union together to control them. Eventually, the violence and dysfunction will be great enough so that some states will eventually be successful in their efforts. National borders have changed for thousands of years - there’s no reason to think that ours will remain permanent.


26 posted on 12/14/2017 10:54:20 PM PST by MountainWalker
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To: Kaslin

No ... no it isn’t


27 posted on 12/14/2017 10:59:36 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: dp0622

There is really only one more road to go down, and the scenery on that road ain’t pretty at all.

Some people are going to have to be taught things that won’t be forgotten for centuries.


28 posted on 12/14/2017 11:03:47 PM PST by chris37 (Take a week off racist >;-)
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To: Kaslin

Freedom of speech is not a high crime or a misdemeanor. I’m sick of these people.


29 posted on 12/14/2017 11:09:47 PM PST by Crucial
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To: Kaslin

2 scoops of icecream - impeach!
hamburger in Japan - impeach!
8 diet soda’s a day - impeach!
2 hamburgers + milkshake on AF1 - impeach!
cleaning his suit while in it - impeach!


30 posted on 12/14/2017 11:12:49 PM PST by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
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To: Kaslin

31 posted on 12/14/2017 11:29:56 PM PST by Slyfox (Are you tired of winning yet?)
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To: lgjhn23

They did get it. We sit here and talk tough And they won the election yesterday


32 posted on 12/14/2017 11:40:15 PM PST by dp0622 (The Left should know that if Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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To: Kaslin
His manties (man-panties) have ridden up on him.


33 posted on 12/15/2017 2:21:17 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Did Barack Obama denounce Communism and dictatorships when he visited Cuba as a puppet of the State?)
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To: bray

>>Perhaps they can list was is not an impeachable offense?

-Gun running to narcoterrorists in Mexico.

-Weaponinzing the IRS against conservative interest groups and blaming it all on a “rogue” employee

-Using private email accounts (non-goverment) with codenames to discuss government matters (and coverups) with your Secretary of State on an unsecured private server that is subsequently bit wiped as calls are made to investigate the matter.

-Selling technology secrets to China for campaign cash

-Seizing a refugee child at gunpoint to send him back to Castro’s Communist dictatorship under the guise of “custody dispute”


34 posted on 12/15/2017 2:25:48 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Did Barack Obama denounce Communism and dictatorships when he visited Cuba as a puppet of the State?)
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To: Kaslin
Huh? Why add that last sentence? He's stating it is an impeachable offense, albeit on the lower side.
35 posted on 12/15/2017 2:47:45 AM PST by Moltke (Reasoning with a liberal is like watering a rock in the hope to grow a building)
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To: Kaslin
HARTMANN: Merlin in Madison, Wisc. Hey, Merlin, what's on your mind today?


Now THERE is an unbiased location!!

36 posted on 12/15/2017 4:35:28 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Vision Thing

EXCELLANT!


37 posted on 12/15/2017 4:36:16 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: a fool in paradise

Separated at birth...


38 posted on 12/15/2017 4:41:24 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Honest injun???


39 posted on 12/15/2017 4:51:44 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Did Barack Obama denounce Communism and dictatorships when he visited Cuba as a puppet of the State?)
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To: Kaslin

Is that the fake Indian’s brother?


40 posted on 12/15/2017 4:54:42 AM PST by cp124 (FUGOPe)
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