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I feel sorry for people who live in high SALT states but I also feel sorry for people in low SALT states who subsidize the high SALT states thanks to favorable deductions. Perhaps this will force the voters to start looking at how those politicians spend their money.
1 posted on 12/16/2017 11:00:35 PM PST by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

That’s crap.

The principle is you don’t tax taxes.

NO ONE in the Republican Party ever talked about this until a few months ago when they started pushing the subsidy line.

It IS NOT why we elected Trump.

That was about immigration and trade. Not Leftist redistribution crap like eliminating the deductibility of taxes.

Up until the mid-80’s ALL interest was deductible: the principle being that interest was income to someone and no double taxation should take place. They eliminated that and increased the standard deduction to try to cover it, but it was always just a scam to raise taxes.

And that’s all this is.


2 posted on 12/16/2017 11:20:50 PM PST by Regulator
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All my life I’ve been subsidizing NY and Cali ,, making it easier for rat politicians to tax their people... it isn’t right for people in faraway states to ride the subway or for states to make exorbitant retirement packages for their cronies on my back ,, F’Em! They want to live in Massachusetts or Chicago ,, let them pay FULL F*ing FREIGHT.


4 posted on 12/16/2017 11:33:28 PM PST by Neidermeyer (Show me a peaceful Muslim and I will show you a heretic to the Koran.)
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So whats the problem, they live in states where taxes are high, caused by Dem policies, they must pay their fair share, their the ones enjoying the benefits provided by the higher state and local taxes.


5 posted on 12/16/2017 11:44:14 PM PST by QuigleyDU
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“Hatred of taxes is the root of all evil” - unknown democrat economist


7 posted on 12/17/2017 12:09:43 AM PST by Karl Spooner
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

The left keeps saying that raising taxes on the rich is great for an economy. I guess they’ll get their wish.


8 posted on 12/17/2017 12:56:22 AM PST by guitar Josh
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It’s gone unreported with the exception of a slip up by WLS am 890 news reported only once. But two civic groups (Brighton Park) and a north side group Humbolt Park) have instituted a law suit against the state for allowing the city to use property taxes as a means of funding social programs.


9 posted on 12/17/2017 1:20:29 AM PST by mosesdapoet (Mosesdapoet aka L.J.Keslin)
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What “modest home” in the boroughs has a tax bill of $19,400?

There’s something goofy about this columnist’s numbers.

Any home in the “boroughs” with that level of taxation is miles beyond modest.


10 posted on 12/17/2017 1:22:09 AM PST by joeystoy
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Let’s look at a typical NYC-area family. The wife is a lawyer; her spouse, an associate TV producer. Together they make $190,000...
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“Typical”? More fake news.

The Federal tax laws are supposed to be applied equally across the US, not be tailored to each State. The high SALT States seem to want to be treated as a “special interest group”. .....Those States need to strongly voice their needs for lower SALTs to their State governments.


11 posted on 12/17/2017 1:38:56 AM PST by octex
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“Let’s look at a typical NYC-area family. The wife is a lawyer; her spouse, an associate TV producer.”

Guess what, whining liberal puke, a lawyer and a TV producer aren’t middle class anywhere in America!


12 posted on 12/17/2017 1:45:48 AM PST by Beagle8U (Wake up and smell the Covfef)
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Except the high SALT states subsidize the rest of the country by paying more to the Feds than they get back. Nice BS narrative though. I bet you live in a moocher state. How about we get to lower our taxes and you stop taking our money so we wouldn’t need high state taxes?


13 posted on 12/17/2017 2:10:14 AM PST by The Cuban
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What is really criminal is how they moved the personal exemption over to part of the standard deduction.

That means that modest-income folks in high-tax states can’t get the deduction while the high-income get to deduct their nannies, expensive private schools, SALT taxes, etc.

Same goes for charity deductions, mortgage interest deductions, etc. Those in the lower middle in general have got screwed—but especially in the high-tax states.

All deductions should have been put on a several-year phase out, coupled with significant reductions in personal income tax rates.

But no...


18 posted on 12/17/2017 3:07:58 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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Let’s look at a typical NYC-area family. The wife is a lawyer; her spouse, an associate TV producer. Together they make $190,000 — that’s good money, for sure, but they live in an expensive area for work.

Typical generally means median. Median for NYC was $73,854 in 2016. Typical for people the author knows? Maybe. What is clear, though is that Trump will lose a huge tax deduction here. Not that the media will talk about this.

19 posted on 12/17/2017 3:20:29 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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I have zero sympathy for those in high tax states. They got what they voted for. Now, they have to deal with the consequences of their stupidity. If you didn’t vote for it, then you should vote with your feet.


21 posted on 12/17/2017 3:47:02 AM PST by brewcrew1965 (Liberalism is a mental disorder.)
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Let’s look at a typical NYC-area family. The wife is a lawyer; her spouse, an associate TV producer. Together they make $190,000 — that’s good money, for sure, but they live in an expensive area for work.

Show me a lawyer/associate TV producer that only make a combined $190K - especially in the NYC area......

You are correct - the high tax States/areas are double edges - on one hand they contribute more but on the other hand they end up having their taxes subsidized by a larger pool of folks in ,lower COL areas.

27 posted on 12/17/2017 4:29:22 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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I have zero sympathy for those who live in high tax "zip codes" whining about their taxes. Their taxes are so high only because they and their fellow travelers voted them to be that high. That's no reason for me to subsidize their lives. That's right. If you and I earn identical salaries, and you life in such a "high tax zip code", you pay lower federal income taxes than I do. I happen to think that's not fair.

If you choose to live in a high tax zip code, for what ever reason, don't expect me to subsidize your life style.

28 posted on 12/17/2017 4:33:01 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (The stone age didn't end because we ran out of stones.)
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Now I know I am old. I can’t read the acronym SALT without first thinking it stands for Strategic Arms Limitation Treaty.


29 posted on 12/17/2017 5:02:30 AM PST by posterchild
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This thread is starting to take on the tone of a Trump vs. Cruz thread from 2015/6. Time to go back to my original tag line, something I picked up in an Income Taxation course in college. One of the few things I learned in college that is still true today.

And everybody on this thread should remember that the purpose of a tax is to fund government activities. The SJW contingent in Congress continues to affect personal behavior by throwing crumbs into the code to make enough people think they "won" the tax code change battle.

I'm mildly surprised the Democrats haven't tried to add some refundable credit for adopting an illegal alien in order to convince voters we need more illegals.

37 posted on 12/17/2017 6:08:23 AM PST by Bernard (The only Fair Tax is the Tax that Taxes You and not Me)
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“They will also pay about $10,584 in state and $6,137 in NYC taxes, which comes to another $16,721. Adding in their property taxes brings their total tax bill to $36,206 — a common level for many hard-working New Yorkers.”

That’s not on the GOP. That’s on the Dems.


42 posted on 12/17/2017 6:33:57 AM PST by Brilliant
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The federal tax system should not be subsidizing tax payers in the states with high state and local taxes. How much are taxpayers in states with lower state and local taxes subsidizing those in the higher tax states? About as much as those in the lower tax states will now save with the lower federal tax rates and higher standard deductions. Restore SALT and you’ll have to raise the tax rates for everyone back up a bit.


53 posted on 12/17/2017 7:11:56 AM PST by Wuli
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“I also feel sorry for people in low SALT states who subsidize the high SALT states thanks to favorable deductions”

The logic of zero sum communists who believe the government owns all the wealth/money and just lets us use a portion of it.

There is no subsidy. Nobody in state A is sending money to State B through tax deductions.

Only dumb people believe in that fairy tale, or espouse it for some political objective.

Simply ludicrous.


64 posted on 12/17/2017 9:22:17 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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