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The fate of America's only nuclear plant under construction will be decided Thursday
Washington Examiner ^ | Dec 18, 2017 | Josh Siegel

Posted on 12/18/2017 3:35:50 AM PST by Oshkalaboomboom

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To: TexasGator

I was trying to say it took them half the time to get to 16%, in the case of plant 5 as it did for plant 3. Sorry for the confusion


41 posted on 12/18/2017 1:49:06 PM PST by shotgun
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Did we lose sight of the fact this construction was driven by the false premises of global warming and peak oil?


42 posted on 12/18/2017 1:59:06 PM PST by Disestablishmentarian
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To: shotgun
I worked for a Utility in Mass before I retired. The plant I worked in was built in the 60s on time and under estimate.

The contractor stipulated that Utility would pay penalty after the plans were approved for any changes that that the Utility demanded.

The place ran for 42 years, the only problems that I saw in the 22 years I worked there was the Utility didn't have a clue about how to run or maintain a power generation facility.

43 posted on 12/18/2017 2:07:25 PM PST by Little Bill (VN 65 - 68)
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To: shotgun

I was an engineer for C-E at 3/5.


44 posted on 12/18/2017 2:12:16 PM PST by TexasGator (Z)
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To: Disestablishmentarian

“Did we lose sight of the fact this construction was driven by the false premises of global warming and peak oil?”

LOL!


45 posted on 12/18/2017 2:15:44 PM PST by TexasGator (Z)
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To: TexasGator

In the water and on the shores refers to marine life and mammal die offs.
I’ll put some links below. I’ve been watching this unfold since 2011 and it’s flat out depressing to go looking for links, to think of it all. The links below are mostly from 2017 and they are just a small sample.
The first impacts I recall were sea stars dying off the entire west coast. Then there were reports of Alaskan islands where entire bird populations were dead - just an island covered with dead birds. And mammals covered with oozing lesions etc.

There’s alway projected reasons for lesions, pus, brain infections, “melting tissue” and starvation etc. There’s an account of someone well known in boating who lamented teh “dead ocean” he just crossed, noting that in years past it was teaming and now it was silent.
The places I visit routinely in California have changed. In Moss Landing and Monterey Bay, the sea lions bark like (annoying dogs) and weigh down the docks with their bodies. Now they are gone except for a handful - covered and sinking docks to 3 - 5.
Lots of starvation. People were “amazed” and “delighted” to see “so many different kinds of whales all fishing in the same little spot in Monterey Bay!” and I realized that those very different hunters with very different migration habits were all crammed together in the bay because there isn’t food left in their normal hunting grounds. So - I’m not going to document back to 2011 but here are some links from 2017.

Fisheries:
http://theava.com/archives/66899

https://www.undercurrentnews.com/2017/02/01/japanese-salmon-fisheries-in-historic-collapse/

http://russgeorge.net/2017/01/31/japanese-salmon-fisheries-in-historic-collapse/

Cod die-off
https://www.ktoo.org/2017/11/06/cod-numbers-gulf-alaska-fall-dramatically/

https://www.seafoodsource.com/news/supply-trade/gulf-of-alaska-cod-stocks-at-all-time-lows

Salmon
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/environment/empty-nets-signal-trouble-for-columbia-river-salmon/

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/environment/empty-nets-signal-trouble-for-columbia-river-salmon/

Dolphins and other:
https://www.10news.com/news/dead-dolphin-mystery-explained-by-scripps-insitution-of-oceanography

Birds
http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2017/05/29/sick-dead-seabirds-pelicans-ventura-santa-barbara/

http://www.cbs8.com/story/35546701/pelicans-sick-dying-along-the-ventura-santa-barbara-coast

http://www.ktuu.com/content/news/Following-last-years-massive-die-off-of-Alaskan-seabirds-scientists-still-looking-for-answers-413757753.html

http://kyuk.org/post/massive-murre-die-last-winter-caused-warm-water-disrupting-food-chain-and-causing-starvation

Crustacean and Assortment:
http://khon2.com/2017/05/02/thousands-of-tiny-crabs-wash-onto-north-shore-beaches/

Sea Stars:

http://www.oregonlive.com/environment/index.ssf/2013/12/oregon_coast_isolated_from_mys.html

http://www.vision.org/visionmedia/article.aspx%3Fid%3D76044

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2013/nov/05/starfish-wasting-disease-scientists-west-coast

Sharks:
http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Leopard-sharks-dying-by-the-hundreds-in-San-11125473.php

http://abc7news.com/society/leopard-sharks-dying-in-record-numbers-in-sf-bay/1954836/

http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/article/NE/20170408/NEWS/170409701

Sea Lions

http://www.biographic.com/posts/sto/cancer-at-sea

https://www.independent.com/news/2017/apr/25/scores-birds-sea-lions-suffering-likely-domoic-aci/

http://www.vcstar.com/story/news/special-reports/outdoors/2017/04/20/toxin-likely-blame-sea-lion-bird-deaths-ventura-county-california/100669606/

Whales
http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/34283547/wildlife-officials-investigate-record-humpback-whale-deaths

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2015/04/24/two-whale-carcasses-wash-ashore-in-santa-cruz-county/

Fallout in Hawaii 200 times than expected:
https://www.deepdyve.com/lp/elsevier/fukushima-derived-radiocesium-fallout-in-hawaiian-soils-ga8XszlLNi?key=elsevier

http://www.cornell.edu/video/five-years-after-fukushima-lessons-learned-nuclear-accidents


46 posted on 12/18/2017 2:30:27 PM PST by ransomnote
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“Immediately after the earthquake, the remaining reactors 1-3 shut down automatically, and emergency generators came online to control electronics and coolant systems. However the tsunami following the earthquake quickly flooded the low-lying rooms in which the emergency generators were housed.”

So don’t build where there’s risk of both earthquake and sudden flooding. Problem solved.


47 posted on 12/18/2017 2:31:18 PM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: NobleFree

Actually that westing house designed reactor had a weakness that was detailed in an internal memo (pressure blowback or something like that) and they chose to ignore it. There are still terror attacks and floods (Texas) to consider and design flaws created with new designs. The problem seems to be hubris - the belief that perfect people will design perfect reactors that will run perfectly.


48 posted on 12/18/2017 2:40:24 PM PST by ransomnote
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To: ransomnote

None of the dieoffs you linked were from radiation!


49 posted on 12/18/2017 2:59:48 PM PST by TexasGator (Z)
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To: ransomnote

You talk out of your a$$


50 posted on 12/18/2017 3:01:13 PM PST by TexasGator (Z)
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To: TexasGator

Ahem...the government insures and is liable for radiation leaks so no, no government in the world admits to anything. For example, Russia still denies that large regions of the Ukraine suffer debilitating illnesses from radioactive waste. Japan denies it’s responsibility, the US helps it.
Radioactive waste suppresses immunity so diseases that could normally be defeated win. That’s win-win for the radiation lobby. YAY! OOZING CANCERS ARE UP! Every now and then a brave, soon to be unemployed scientists says “hey, maybe it’s from Fukushima” and sadly he/she is not heard from again. Gov underwrites science funding - you won’t get scientists who want funding admitting to much.

You just have to watch entire islands full of birds die, sea lions stop reproducing and have their bones turn to cancerous mush, sea stars rip apart and melt and docks, harbors along the coast fall silent. Since you don’t go to the beach with geiger counters, rest assured the nuke lobby will deny epic die offs throughout the pacific. And if you do go to the beach with equipment, they’ll snort at it’s amateur findings. There’s no news unless the MSM says it’s news, remember. Anyone outside the MSM must have an “agenda”! So let it all die right in front of you and keep denying that continuously venting radioactive waste into the ocean for the past 6.5 years and for the rest of our lives has NO effect at all.
Here’s a hint - stay away from seafood. Sadly, this is all transferring to land slowly but for now, just avoid the seafood and don’t bother taking cruises.


51 posted on 12/18/2017 3:53:48 PM PST by ransomnote
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To: TexasGator

None of the dieoffs you linked were from radiation!

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Did you REALLY expect them to admit to wild life die offs when they deny the effects on humans living in Fukushima area today? ReallY?


52 posted on 12/18/2017 3:54:54 PM PST by ransomnote
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To: Disestablishmentarian

That doubtless added.

And yet a diversity of sources is wise. One bets on more than one earthly basket.

I hear that nukes of today aren’t the safest possible kind. They look like the descendants of the Manhattan Project they are. That was easily built, not so easily maintained. Maybe thorium reactors could be the next generation. If they lose coolant they won’t melt “to China.”


53 posted on 12/18/2017 5:31:00 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: ransomnote

A poor schmoe who can’t reliably finger how wrong someone is even in a biker fight is expected to do it here?


54 posted on 12/18/2017 5:35:07 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: ransomnote

Just came back from a cruise and ate lots of lobster, fish and clams.

Dude, get a life ...


55 posted on 12/18/2017 7:49:34 PM PST by TexasGator (Z)
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To: ransomnote

“Ahem...the government insures and is liable for radiation leaks “

US plants are privately insured.


56 posted on 12/18/2017 7:52:22 PM PST by TexasGator (Z)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I am happy you see the truth through the eyes of a union pipefitter instead of someone who has spent his career designing, testing and operating nuclear reactors ...


57 posted on 12/18/2017 7:55:15 PM PST by TexasGator (Z)
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To: TexasGator

Ah did you understand what cast of clowns that this “profession” was expected to work with? And “union pipefitter” is the least of it.


58 posted on 12/18/2017 7:57:35 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: TexasGator

There really ought to have been a line item in the bids: “Add 100% for various ‘civic’ shenanigans.”

And then watch the fun begin.


59 posted on 12/18/2017 8:00:00 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I hope you can sleep it off before heading back to work.


60 posted on 12/18/2017 8:00:14 PM PST by TexasGator (Z)
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