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The fate of America's only nuclear plant under construction will be decided Thursday
Washington Examiner ^ | Dec 18, 2017 | Josh Siegel

Posted on 12/18/2017 3:35:50 AM PST by Oshkalaboomboom

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To: TexasGator

ah....troll repetition. The pro nuke apologist is really limited to claiming “hallucination” and repetition.


81 posted on 12/19/2017 5:44:37 PM PST by ransomnote
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To: TexasGator

So remember official channels dating back to Chernobyl always under report dosage (Chernobyl reported 10% and their officals said so on camera) and officials in Fukushima bragged they had “learned the lessons of Chernobyl” (i.e., under report and make it illegal to report illness deaths from radiation.
YET Wikipedia has some info which is amazing - it’s usually suppressed 100% whenever possible:
“ A 2013 WHO report predicts that for populations living in the most affected areas there is a 70% higher risk of developing thyroid cancer for girls exposed as infants (the risk has risen from a lifetime risk of 0.75% to 1.25%), a 7% higher risk of leukemia in males exposed as infants, a 6% higher risk of breast cancer in females exposed as infants and a 4% higher”

Now, they downplay it all, these predictions are criminally low, but at least they are admitting to some tiny portion.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_effects_from_the_Fukushima_Daiichi_nuclear_disaster


82 posted on 12/19/2017 5:50:26 PM PST by ransomnote
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To: TexasGator

“A day later, Tokyo Electric Power Company (TEPCO) announced that the amount of radioactive material released during the first days of the Fukushima nuclear disaster was almost two and a half times the initial estimate by Japanese safety regulators [4]. The operator said the meltdowns at the three reactors released about 900 000 Terabecquerels (1012 Bq) of radioactive substances into the air during March 2011.”

Now these data keep being released and as a liable party, it’s amazing Tepco ever admitted to anything.

http://www.i-sis.org.uk/Truth_About_Fukushima.php


83 posted on 12/19/2017 5:53:15 PM PST by ransomnote
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To: ransomnote

I’m just curious, not trying to be provocative.

I know what a couple of the other guys have done.

Have you ever built anything with your hands?

I mean, you talk about “all this information pouring in” out there...well, b.s. pours in just like that too.


84 posted on 12/19/2017 5:54:01 PM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: TexasGator

Here’s a nice little peer reviewed article quantifying the contamination of Tokyo.

http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0187687

What I like about it is in documents the fact that Tokyo contamination (downtown) was downplayed in all prior reporting. Millions of people affect and no one would admit it. But, that’s the nuke industry “Lie until the victims die, then lie some more.”

“Conditions and radioactive contamination shortly after the FDNPP accident have been reported in a variety of publications [2–5]. However, these include almost no discussion of the fact that radioactive materials were carried into the Tokyo metropolitan area, which is a densely populated urban area and the socio-economic and cultural core of Japan, nor of any evaluation of the fluctuations in the radioactive material in Tokyo’s urban districts.”


85 posted on 12/19/2017 5:56:43 PM PST by ransomnote
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To: Fightin Whitey

Oh this one is good:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/why-the-fukushima-disaster-is-worse-than-chernobyl-2345542.html

” But it is the triple meltdown and its aftermath at the Fukushima nuclear power plant 40km down the coast from Soma that has elevated Japan into unknown, and unknowable, terrain. Across the northeast, millions of people are living with its consequences and searching for a consensus on a safe radiation level that does not exist.”


86 posted on 12/19/2017 5:59:23 PM PST by ransomnote
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To: Fightin Whitey

ANother good quote from that same article:
“Last Friday, scientists affiliated with the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency said the plant had released 15,000 terabecquerels of cancer-causing Cesium, equivalent to about 168 times the 1945 atomic bombing of Hiroshima, the event that ushered in the nuclear age.”

Official sources always under report so this number will go higher.


87 posted on 12/19/2017 6:03:03 PM PST by ransomnote
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To: ransomnote

Well, I asked a sincere question, but that’s okay.

I understand better now where you come from.


88 posted on 12/19/2017 6:03:25 PM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: Fightin Whitey

So you now understand I deal with scientific data and have little patience for games. Good.


89 posted on 12/19/2017 6:07:26 PM PST by ransomnote
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To: ransomnote

You do realize that your link in a pro-wind power global warming bullsite ...


90 posted on 12/19/2017 6:11:28 PM PST by TexasGator (Z)
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To: ransomnote

So the increase is 0.5% which is statistically insignificant and immeasurable in the real world..


91 posted on 12/19/2017 6:15:22 PM PST by TexasGator (Z)
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To: TexasGator

I know, I know....you prefer 100% of information given to the public come from official nuke industry sources who are desperate to hide their incompetence. It’s funny that whatever the nuke industry says is deemed “unbiased” but any other voice “has an agenda.” Well it’s not really funny but I wish it was.

This Zero Hedge article (credits NOAA) is nice for it’s map of the contamination and the fact that 300 tons of radioactive waste from Fukushima flows into the ocean every day. Yes, every day.

The title is “Fukushima Radiation Has Contaminated The Entire Pacific Ocean (And It’s Going To Get Worse)”
Here’s an excerpt:

” It is interesting to note that TEPCO is a subsidiary partner with General Electric (also known as GE), one of the largest companies in the world, which has considerable control over numerous news corporations and politicians alike. Could this possibly explain the lack of news coverage Fukushima has received in the last five years? There is also evidence that GE knew about the poor condition of the Fukushima reactors for decades and did nothing. This led 1,400 Japanese citizens to sue GE for their role in the Fukushima nuclear disaster.”

And Here’s the link: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-02/fukushima-radiation-has-contaminated-entire-pacific-ocean-and-its-going-get-worse


92 posted on 12/19/2017 6:18:03 PM PST by ransomnote
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To: TexasGator

No it’s the tip of the iceberg. They never admit to .01% unless outted somehow. Over the years they’ll admit to more and more until most of those affected are dead. This time will be more difficult though because more readioactive waste is added to the environment every day from Fukushima, the disaster never ended and won’t end in our life time. Just gets worse. So, the number will go higher.

Meanwhile, Russia is the latest nuke industry player hiding and denying uncontrolled radioactive waste releases. Those numbers are ever increasing too. See a pattern?

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/russia-radioactive-ruthenium-106-ural-mountains-rosatom-denies-nuclear-leak/


93 posted on 12/19/2017 6:21:47 PM PST by ransomnote
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

I worked as a field engineer for many years in nuclear power plant construction.
The policies and procedures to do anything are just something to behold....insane to put it bluntly. When the nuclear work dried up, it was difficult for many of us to find work in other industries because we had a “nuclear background” and no other industry wanted to hire us out of fear of being “poisoned” by it’s insane “policies and procedures”.
So, I went out and learned a marketable skill: I learned to weld. Got out of the power industry entirely and went to work in the oil/gas industry. I should have done it way earlier in my career as the pay was quite a bit better and the “policies and procedures” were much more realistic to real life situations. I enjoyed the oil/gas business immensely....to this day, I still miss it even though I’m now retired.


94 posted on 12/19/2017 6:31:04 PM PST by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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To: ransomnote

Tepco’s incompetence or mendacity has no bearing on your conspiracy theories.

You are in the same league as a flat earther, moon hoaxer, or 9-11 truther.


95 posted on 12/19/2017 6:36:20 PM PST by hopespringseternal
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To: ransomnote

So now your source is from Bulgaria!


96 posted on 12/19/2017 6:39:15 PM PST by TexasGator (Z)
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To: ransomnote

No, I think you are a smug, fanatical and unskilled troll, fool and punk.

But that’s your business, as long as you don’t start stalking me with your reams of bullshit. Then you’ll have trouble.

Good luck to you.


97 posted on 12/19/2017 6:43:29 PM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: hopespringseternal

Here’s another article. You notice they always talk about cesium but seldom ever see anything about Strontium, which must be present and other nasties like Plutonium? There sure is alot of data dating back to Chernobyl and coming to the present releases in the US and Russia to be all fake. Are you sure you’re not the one with conspiracy theories to claim world wide data sources are all faking it? I mean, there is VIDEO of Fukushima containment domes blowing up and that’s generally not good right?
NOtice this article falsely claims that eating small enough amounts of radioactive waste is “safe” when state of the art research indicates small exposure = small risk and is cumulative so today’s fish consumed is not the end of exposure.

https://www.rt.com/news/fukushima-fish-cesium-radiation-548/

“One of the samples of the 37 black sea bream specimens caught some 37 kilometers south of the crippled power plant tested at 12,400 becquerels per kilogram of radioactive cesium, making it 124 times deadlier than the threshold considered safe for human consumption, Japan’s Fisheries Research Agency announced. “


98 posted on 12/19/2017 6:46:22 PM PST by ransomnote
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To: TexasGator

We agree CBS is always questionable and you really won’t like any source coming from any where other than the nuke industry. Here’s the Guardian so you can shriek NOW YOUR SOURCE IS GREAT BRITAIN!! ARRGGGHHHH!

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/nov/21/russian-radiation-leak-everything-you-need-to-know

“Russia’s meteorological service has confirmed that “extremely high” concentrations of a radioactive isotope, ruthenium-106, were found in several parts of the country in late September. “

I don’t even have to read the article to know that Russia will lie and say it’s harmless. All countries with nukes claim all exposures are 100% harmless.


99 posted on 12/19/2017 6:48:58 PM PST by ransomnote
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To: Fightin Whitey

Stalking, Snowflake? Replying to you on a thread is stalking? Perhaps you need your cuddle bear now....


100 posted on 12/19/2017 6:49:53 PM PST by ransomnote
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