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To: LS

Russia and China took the most casualties in WWII..I think...

Without Britain Europe would have fallen..the U.S. did not have a fighting force for eighteen months

Russia probably killed more Germans than the U.S. and Britain..

It is U.S. war material that won the war...they could not attack us..same with Japan...


37 posted on 12/24/2017 2:03:40 PM PST by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

Russia and China then went onto launch campaigns of their own self-destruction under Stalin (who we can also thank for the installation of North Korea’s Kim Il Sung regime) and Mao’s Cultural Revolution.


38 posted on 12/24/2017 2:06:12 PM PST by GoldenState_Rose
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To: Hojczyk

The T-34 won the war for the Soviet Union, it doesn’t matter how many Russians were sacrificed, without it, the Soviets lose the war.

Even when the Germans were routing the Red Army, a German general spotted a T-34 for the first time, and remarked, that if the Russians were building them on assembly lines, Germany would lose the war.


39 posted on 12/24/2017 2:06:39 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Hojczyk

Absolutely true on all counts, save one. I did calculations on the amount of air power, anti-air, personnel, and fuel the Germans dedicated to the anti-bombing campaign in the west, 90% of which was against daytime bombing by the Americans. It was about 30% of their resources in any category.

If you put 30% more air over Kursk, the Germans win. It’s not close. They were winning the battle up to the point they lost air superiority. The Stukas with the tank buster guns were slaughtering the Russian armor. So without the US in the war, I don’t know if Germany beats Russia, but it’s a much, much longer war.

Also, the material that flowed in was astounding. In 1941-early 1942, the BEST Russian fighter plane on the front was the P-39 AirCobra, a plane so bad we wouldn’t even put our own pilots in it. So despite the massive power of the Red Army (offensives of 100 divisions!), they were using Ford trucks and American transports to move all their infantry. And they used American/Brit radios extensively. In short, the Russians were able to focus really on just three things: men, cannons, and tanks.


90 posted on 12/24/2017 6:32:25 PM PST by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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