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"...he declined to do so."

York has been doing some good work on this story.

1 posted on 12/27/2017 12:53:19 PM PST by mojito
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I would love to think McCain was like this because of his brain tumor but I doubt it.


2 posted on 12/27/2017 12:54:56 PM PST by Herman Ball (2)
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Kramer may have to be careful and avoid stairs, belts, shoe laces, bar bells, and early morning walks on a beach.

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In the session, Kramer told House investigators that he knew the identities of the Russian sources for the allegations in Steele's dossier. But when investigators pressed Kramer to reveal those names, he declined to do so.

Now, he is under subpoena. The subpoena, issued Wednesday afternoon, directs Kramer to appear again before House investigators on Jan. 11.

Knowing Steele's sources is a critical part of the congressional dossier investigation, for both sides. If one argues the document is unverified and never will be, it is critical to learn the identity of the sources to support that conclusion. If one argues the document is the whole truth, or largely true, knowing sources is equally critical.


5 posted on 12/27/2017 1:00:19 PM PST by ptsal ( Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - M. Twain)
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We have suspected McCain was involved for 6 months.
It is now pretty clear McCain, Flake, some of his staff and probably Romney and his staff are involved.


8 posted on 12/27/2017 1:03:56 PM PST by Zathras
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McCain(e) should be locked up for the last few days of his miserable, traitorous life.


9 posted on 12/27/2017 1:05:16 PM PST by keat
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So McCain turns over his copy of Dossier in December 2016, BUT THE FBI ALREADY HAD IT! They got it in June 2016. Juan McCain was a “useful idiot” in all this!


11 posted on 12/27/2017 1:08:47 PM PST by oil_dude
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His boss doesn't even know which ankle his monitor is on.


14 posted on 12/27/2017 1:13:37 PM PST by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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I wonder if Kramer was at that security conference in Halifax...


17 posted on 12/27/2017 1:18:22 PM PST by mewzilla (Was Obama surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
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They need to have an FBI agent in on every testimony to congress. Since lying to congress is no big deal, but lying in front of the FBI is a felony, Sessions should make sure there is a low level FBI agent sitting in on EVERY damned meeting.


20 posted on 12/27/2017 1:22:15 PM PST by Bubba Gump Shrimp (A Liberal is someone who cannot accept that there is a Law of Unintended Consequences)
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I’ve known so many fine people who undeservedly developed wicked illnesses, but McCain has earned every, single cancer cell that is ravaging his body. He is unAmerican to the core.


22 posted on 12/27/2017 1:26:28 PM PST by JonPreston
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YEP!!!


23 posted on 12/27/2017 1:27:08 PM PST by ZULU (DITCH MITCH!!! DUMP RYAN!! DROP DEAD MCCAIN!! KIM FATTY the THIRD = Kim Jung Un)
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Oh my.


24 posted on 12/27/2017 1:30:22 PM PST by tennmountainman ("Prophet Mountainman" Predicter Of All Things RINO...for a small fee.)
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McCain in an Orange Jumpsuit...

Makes Me Smile!


30 posted on 12/27/2017 1:37:27 PM PST by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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what never made sense was:
Why was McCain involved in the first place ? why didn’t he take it right to DOJ upon first contact? and
Why didn’t Comey tell McCain that Comey already had the dossier, except...

1. Comey wanted to establish a false time line for the dossier and McCain was in on it ?
why ? to bring down a president ?
2. McCain legitimately didn’t know and Comey was setting him up to be a patsy ?

add your own theories here:


31 posted on 12/27/2017 1:40:22 PM PST by stylin19a (Best.Election.of.All-Times.Ever.In.The.History.Of.Ever)
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“and why they will try to compel Kramer to talk.”

Anyone want to make a bet that the committee does NOTHING when this quisling worm decides not to talk???

Congress has ALL the power in washington, the executive and judicial branch operate according to the whims of CONGRESS!

“U.S. CODE
TITLE 2—THE CONGRESS
CHAPTER 6—CONGRESSIONAL AND COMMITTEE PROCEDURE; INVESTIGATIONS
Sec. 193. Privilege of witnesses
No witness is privileged to refuse to testify to any fact, or to produce any paper, respecting which he shall be examined by either House of Congress, or by any joint committee established by a joint or concurrent resolution of the two Houses of Congress, or by any committee of either House, upon the ground that his testimony to such fact or his production of such paper may tend to disgrace him or otherwise render him infamous.”

Simply look up Hinds Precedents, especially chapters 53 and 51, and Cannon’s Precedents, especially chapters 184-185. You’ll find numerous detailed cases of Congress asserting its power, arresting people, holding them until they agreed to answer questions, and then releasing them. Some of these people did not refuse to appear, but simply failed to satisfactorily answer questions. One has to wonder how a previous Congress might have responded to Alberto Gonzales’s endless recitations of “I do not recall.”

Congress can Remove the President
Congress can remove the head of every executive agency Congress can remove ALL of their employees
Congress can Abolish every agency they so choose
Congress can remove EVERY JUDGE IN AMERICA, including every supreme court justice.
Congress can abolish every federal court except the supreme Court
Congress can decide which cases the Judicial Branch can hear and decide
CONGRESS can Imprison ANYONE they want for any reason they so desire for as long as they wish.
Congress can declare WAR

No other governing body has even 10% of the power CONGRESS has!!

CONGRESS IS ALLOWING ALL OF IT!!!

Congress has the authority to arrest and imprison those found in Contempt. The power extends throughout the United States and is an inherent power (does not depend upon legislated act)

If found in Contempt the person can be arrested under a warrant of the Speaker of the House of Representatives or President of the Senate, by the respective Sergeant at Arms.

Statutory criminal contempt is an alternative to inherent contempt.

Under the inherent contempt power Congress may imprison a person for a specific period of time or an indefinite period of time, except a person imprisoned by the House of Representatives may not be imprisoned beyond adjournment of a session of Congress.

Imprisonment may be coercive or punitive.

Some references

[1] Joseph Story’s Commentaries on the Constitution, Volume 2, § 842 http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/print_documents/a1_5s21.html

[2] Anderson v. Dunn - 19 U.S. 204 - “And, as to the distance to which the process might reach, it is very clear that there exists no reason for confining its operation to the limits of the District of Columbia; after passing those limits, we know no bounds that can be prescribed to its range but those of the United States.” http://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/19/204/case.html

[3] Jurney v. MacCracken, 294 U.S. 125 http://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/294/125/case.html 73rd Cong., 78 Cong. Rec. 2410 (1934) https://archive.org/details/congressionalrec78aunit

[4] McGrain v. Daugherty, 273 U.S. 135 - Under a warrant issued by the President of the Senate the Deputy to the Senate Sergeant at Arms arrested at Cincinnati, Ohio, Mally S. Daugherty, who had been twice subpoenaed by the Senate and twice failed to appear. http://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/273/135/case.html

[5] Rules of the House of Representatives, Rule IV Duties of the Sergeant at Arms - [] execute the commands of the House, and all processes issued by authority thereof, directed to him by the Speaker. http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/HMAN-105/pdf/HMAN-105-pg348.pdf

[6] An analysis of Congressional inquiry, subpoena, and enforcement http://www.constitutionproject.org/documents/when-congress-comes-calling-a-primer-on-the-principles-practices-and-pragmatics-of-legislative-inquiry/

In 1857, a New York Times reporter refused to say which members of Congress had asked him to get them bribes (protecting his “sources” just as various Judith Millers today protect the people who feed them proven lies that costs thousands of lives), so Congress locked him up until he answered and then banned him from Congress.

In 1924 an oil executive appeared but refused to answer certain questions, so the Senate held — literally held — him in contempt. Senator Thomas Walsh of Montana argued that this question of contempt was of the gravest importance, and that it involved “the very life of the effective existence of the House of Representatives of the United States and of the Senate of the United States.” The matter was taken to court, and the witness fined and imprisoned.


32 posted on 12/27/2017 1:41:59 PM PST by eyeamok (Tolerance: The virtue of having a belief in Nothing!)
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Odd. Steele should have told Kramer the FBI already had the dossier. Why not ?


34 posted on 12/27/2017 1:44:52 PM PST by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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The more I think about it, the odder this situation gets.

Just who is this Kramer fellow? Here’s his Wiki page (clearly written by Kramer himself):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_J._Kramer

He’s a lifelong lefty swamp dweller with a background in Russian and human rights affairs. He left the State Dept. in 2009 for his current job at the McCain Inst. at Arizona State.

But just why was Kramer, of all people, sent to London to meet with Steele, and on whose initiative? On McCain’s? Is he connected to Fusion GPS or the Ohrs? And why would he make the bombshell claim to know the identities of the Russian sources of the dossier when testifying before the House Intelligence Committee and then refuse to actually name names?

Just a hunch, but I wonder if Mr. Kramer had a hand in fabricating the dossier? Which begs the question: Was McCain involved in fabricating the dossier?


35 posted on 12/27/2017 1:45:31 PM PST by mojito (Zero, our Nero.)
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Turn up the heat and watch McCain fry!


36 posted on 12/27/2017 1:46:07 PM PST by ZULU (DITCH MITCH!!! DUMP RYAN!! DROP DEAD MCCAIN!! KIM FATTY the THIRD = Kim Jung Un)
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Money quote from the story:

Investigators who favor this theory ask a sensible question: It is likely that all the Russians involved in the attempt to influence the 2016 election were lying, scheming, Kremlin-linked, Putin-backed enemies of America – except the Russians who talked to Christopher Steele?

38 posted on 12/27/2017 1:48:06 PM PST by kabar
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Anything that can be linked to McRINO is going in the right direction.


41 posted on 12/27/2017 1:56:45 PM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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McCain is a scum bag. He is up to his butt in this slander. He physically carried this JOKE to Comey!! PERSONALLY. He is a disgrace.


44 posted on 12/27/2017 2:06:40 PM PST by raiderboy ( "...if we have to close down our government, weÂ’re building that wall")
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