If FBI relied on bogus “Trump dossier” to obtain FISA warrants Mueller’s probe Posted on 12/30/2017 8:20:51 PM PST by mojito
Well this latest BS is having its intended effect. It is a big story on all news outlets including FNC. The “Dossier was not the cause of the investigation” meme is taking hold.
I don’t particularly care what UNZ is, I like the site because they allow free expression. Try posting an article from UNZ here. Do you know of any other free expression sites? Thanks for your considered comment.
This approach, originated by the current sense within the intelligence community, indicates all dossier scrutiny is directly over the target; and the leadership knows the risk. This is why the upper-tier management of the FBI and DOJ have refused prior questions about the Dossier’s use. The DOJ/FBI officials know the outline of how the dossier was assembled implicates them in a verifiable conspiracy.
As to the substance of the NYT justification it is absurd on its face.
Please check my tagline re what is impacting this non reality based witch hunt.
If FBI relied on bogus “Trump dossier” to obtain FISA warrants Mueller’s probe The FBI's Own Ten ??? Most Wanted Criminals! :
Thanks to Travis Mcgee for these great mug shots of the insider thugs aka Team Sedition in the FBI/DOJ!
Dem media plays a ratings game - and right now their audience wants stories about how George Papodopolous is a criminal mastermind and Trump is Putin's slave. Democrats are not interested in facts, they are interested in melodramas in which Dems can be portrayed as heroic fighters against evil. Yes, it's silly and a repulsive spectacle to watch if you're not a true believer; but remember, reality is a cruel master and always asserts itself. I think we're witnessing the last bit of hysteria before reality makes a big come back.
Let’s hope so.
They are banking on the ignorance of the American public.
Unfortunately, it's a pretty safe bet. Joe Six-Pack is not as informed about what's going on as we FReepers or other conservatives that get their news from alternative sources.
Indeed -- sturdy enough to be used over and over again as needed.
The FISA warrant application and testimony could answer the question for the NYTimes, CNN, regular propagandist crowd. Maybe they should demand its publication:) I doubt this is the foundation for the warrant application.
Correct.
Reposting what I wrote earlier —
How convenient!
Congress is literally on the verge of imminent charges of ‘contempt’ issued to grossly and legally insubordinate FBI officials, and suddenly this “dissuasive” and defensive report, which did not surface under all the hours of high pressure and stressful congressional hearings is leaked to the press first, and not in a congressional hearing!
The “dots” (which include but are not limited to the “Insurance Policy) we have already connected, determine the truly conspiratorial “Dossier” plan was already paid for by the Clinton Campaign, and being hammered out, with all of its foreign and domestic parts, before much of the information in this “2018 EVE” report attempts to expound on.
As well, if this very sketchy Papadopoulos information was so pivotal to the FBI initiating “Unmasking”, “FISA” Warrants, “Wiretaps”, and the pre-intended trigger and appointment of an “Independent Counsel”, as apposed to the grossly false and illegal “Dossier”, THEN WHY WAS PAPADOPOULOS NOT QUESTIONED UNTIL FEBRUARY 2016?
Keep in mind, the moment money was paid to a foreign agent or entity, to help create documents to be used against a political opponent, it became a blatant violation of Federal Election Law.
This “2018 EVE” report is a much more weak foundation for “Unmasking”, FISA Warrants, Wiretapping, and the pre-strategized implementation of an “Independent Counsel” than the flagrantly false “Dossier” itself!
While ridiculously and stupidly false and illegal, at least the “Dossier” was a “Dossier”, compiled by various anti-American/anti-Trump foreign and domestic government and agency actors and agencies!
This late 2018 report, does not even premise anything other than whimsical and speculative hearsay!
In my opinion, we need to know NOW — who was even behind this latest fairytale report installment! They are clearly engaged in proactively trying to amass an FBI campaign of public pressure against Congressional investigators!
Absolutely NOTHING in this convenient “2018 EVE” report actually disproves the politically motivated Clinton paid “Dossier” and truly illegal and weaponized FBI/AG effort to seat Hillary Clinton, while stopping Trump, and or neutralizing Trump if elected!
My understanding is that Fusion GPS got the dossier got under way in April 2016.
Popodopolous had his drunken blab session with the Aussie in May 2016, but the incident was forgotten about until Wikileaks released the first batch of DNC emails on July 22, just before the DNC convention. So the earliest Aussie contact with US officials about the incident would have followed on that.
However, the WaPo had already reported on June 14, 2016 the story that “Russians” had hacked the DNC servers, that the DNC had discovered the activity in April, and had hired Crowdstrike, who determined that the hack had been the Russians doing.
This is where it gets real interesting: Remember, the VERY SAME FBI agents who are charged with exonerating Hillary in her home server email scandal, also somehow magically morphed into the lead investigators of the alleged Russian espionage. Here's a “what if”: What if those FBI guys, Strzok and the rest, heard from Clinton or her staff about the DNC “hack”? They certainly would be interested, since the question of whether Russians or others had gotten access to Clinton's basement server was part of their “investigation.” What if the FBI, the Clintons, and the DNC decided that they could come up with a plan that would link Trump to the phony Russian hack? Remember: Crowdstrike and Fusion GPS were both hired by the SAME Perkins Coie attorney within mere days of each other - are they not related? Is this not coordinated? And see how both hires allow the FBI to claim that they're somehow not directly involved.
This FISA warrant stuff that's going to come out next week is going to be explosive, but what I really want to see are the emails exchanged between FBI investigator Strzok and the Clinton people from April 2016.
Good lord no, they would never acknowledge that. The Slimes, and their deep state mouthpieces want you to believe that hearsay evidence based on a drunken boast by a Trump volunteer in London caused the FBI to open a counterespionage operation against the Trump campaign. If you believe that, I've got a bridge to sell you.
Did they cite the drunken man and the Aussie ambassador in their FISA request? Or cite the Russian doozy-ier??
HOWEVER, it is possible and even likely! there is a larger or much larger conspiracy in play, with much more information than we have yet learned about!
The FBI and AG were clearly manned at the top with political mercenaries, and weaponized, with years of influence and a wide range of alchemistic efforts to undermine and destroy conservatism and a free America itself, when you think about it.
Hmmm... I am doubting the drunken guy angle:)
Thing is Trump knowns exactly what the FISA app said. He is the President for goodness sakes. Trump is just playing this along to explode it before the mid terms for most effective use. I am betting on it.
The FBI questioned Papadopolous initially in Jan. 2017, and again in Feb. 2017, based on information the Trump campaign had voluntarily turned over. Nobody cared about George until then. All that's in the indictment, which I linked to in an earlier post in this thread. It's an interesting read.
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